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Old 03-26-2012, 12:11 AM   #1
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Relocate door

Hi,
Before we go ahead and buy a 1975 31 sovereign ... a big question ....
I know probably not a lot of people have done this, but as I live in Australia, I am looking at moving the door from left to right hand side. Can this be done easily on a 1975 31 foot sovereign? I know a lot of people have renovated these units, and can probably tell me if can be done. I assume I drill out the rivets, the complete door and frame should come out, I have to remove a window on the other side ? I cut the same hole on the other side and put the door in? I then get some aluminium to fill up the hole? Would it be that simple? I realise that I may have to strip some things out, but I don't mind that.
What does the forum think?
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:47 AM   #2
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Welcome to the forum.

Hi, I think that would be a great idea for you to do. Our door is already on the right hand side, [from the back, looking forward] so it would be moved to the left side. You will need to move the steps too. Post some pictures of this project while in process.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:19 AM   #3
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Weld the "a" frame on the back of the unit and rewire the umbilical. That way you will have a front bedroom model. You will need to switch the brake backing plates as well. This would be a lot simpler than moving all the doors and windows around.
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relocate door

Mmmmm.... what a great idea ... food for thought.
Gas bottles is not a problem, planning to remove the gas anyway and replace with electrical/diesel cooking and heating, the position of the axles might be a problem, to much forward than .... as overhang at the back is restricted to 3.7 metre in Australia.
Have to put new lights / wiring of course .. not a big problem ....
The bumper bar needs to be moved (Would that be easy?
I like the idea

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You are aware the frame is different, front to rear? And the axles are not centered on the frame? And the axles are facing the wrong way and will be backing up all the time?
You can put a door in the left side of the trailer, it's been done very recently.
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Mmmmm.... what a great idea ... food for thought.
Gas bottles is not a problem, planning to remove the gas anyway and replace with electrical/diesel cooking and heating, the position of the axles might be a problem, to much forward than .... as overhang at the back is restricted to 3.7 metre in Australia.
Have to put new lights / wiring of course .. not a big problem ....
The bumper bar needs to be moved (Would that be easy?
I like the idea

Cheers.
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Don't go there.

You would never be able to tow that rig, since you would have negative tongue weight.

Also, and most inportantly, the acles and brakes would be working backwards.

The first time you hit the brakes at highway speeds, you will rip apart the brakes. Electric brakes are not designed to properly work at a high speed in reverse.

Therefor the axles would have to be reverse as well, They also are not designed to work at high speed "backwards".

Relocating the door, can be done.

First step would be to get a couple of "main bows", as you would need to beef up the shell on both sides of the door at the new location, and in the center of where the original door was located. You would also have to add about 4 horizontal stringers.

The original interior vinyl clad metal, no longer exists.

Then outriggers would have to be added for the footstep.

Can this be done?? Yes.

Do you have the tools and patience to do this??

Farming a job out like this, would be very difficult, especially to someone that has never done a job like your thinking about.

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I am not advocating putting the tongue on the back of the trailer. But if one were to do that, the brakes would not be the issue. Since you could just remove the brake assembly, back plate and all and install them on the opposite side of the trailer.
Given that the rear of these trailers are already relatively weak, ie rear end sag and the axle location would be wrong. Reversing the direction that you would pull the trailer is a bad idea. IMHO
As for the interior vinyl clad skin. I would think you may be able to get enough from a salvage yard.
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If the axle placement would work for weight distribution, then the axles could be taken off and reversed to solve the brakes and trailing arms to be kept in proper rotation. The axle mounting holes should be the same. It would take some calculation and measurement of frame dimensions before you start.
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You are aware the frame is different, front to rear? And the axles are not centered on the frame? And the axles are facing the wrong way and will be backing up all the time?
You can put a door in the left side of the trailer, it's been done very recently.
Hi Terry,
Do you now someone who did put a door in the left side? Is there a thread about this? Thanks.
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Im not done yet but I moved the door on my 57 Overlander. I guess I always thought that where there is a will there is a way. I only moved mine from the front to the back. Moving it to the other side may be diffrent.
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What all was involved in going front to back? I was thinking about adding a second door in the rear of my 78 sovereign
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Hi Terry,
Do you now someone who did put a door in the left side? Is there a thread about this? Thanks.
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It was done in our shop. There is a thread about the trailer, you can see photos, but no info about how it was done.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...eam-88223.html
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Great Terry, so it can be done.
Do you guys do it? Do you do work on trailers?
Would be great if you can let me know what's involved, or a link to external site?
Thanks heaps.
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