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04-20-2011, 08:54 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1961 28' Ambassador
1975 31' Excella 500
Bladensburg
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 56
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Lock trouble on 1961 AS Ambassador... help please.
Hi!
I am trying to get my old AS secure, so I don't have to wonder if my neighbors (or anyone else) are borrowing my gear at night.
I had a locksmith out today, and after 2 hours, we can get the key to fit, turn the cylinder to lock the door, but then it won't unlock. Since this is a 50 year old camper (WOW!) and this is the original Bargman lock (L88) he tells me I should think of finding a replacement for it.
I need help please... main idea is just to lock door when we are not in it. It sits in our driveway and if somebody emptied it out right now, I'd only be out a couple of hundred bucks - but it's the principal to me... my stuff... my AS... I'd like to be able to secure it.
Will any old Bargman lock fit this as a replacement? What about a standard RV lock? Anybody done this yet - I didn't have much luck doing a search for this old of a camper. I'm not rich, and this is a rough old camper, but she's camp-able and we're going to use her.
Any tips would be appreciated... I am already $45 in the hole since the locksmith worked 2 hours to no avail. I'd like to just get a cheapo $25 lock from Lowe's or the local camper place... but will they work as replacements?
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04-21-2011, 05:14 AM
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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You may want to consider installing a second deadbolt lock. Sometimes it is necessary to cut the lock shaft ( not correct term)so it is narrower where it penetrates the door frame.
I did this one my 61. I also replaced the original with the modern door latch used on most SOB trailers after someone pulled the handle off the original. This requires patching the door though and the latch is more expensive than the deadbolt.
I think Inland offers a kit with the modern latch that also has a deadbolt but I assembled my own "kit"
WE always lock the deadbolt when traveling to prevent suicide door accidents
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61 tradewind, plus a few others
13 Ram 2500 TD
99 Dodge TD 577K miles
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04-21-2011, 06:38 AM
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,721
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I got the lockset repaired on my '59, but I also feel much better using a second deadbold. You can buy one with a thinner bolt that fits into the door. See Vintage Trailer Supply, $20.
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04-21-2011, 06:59 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1961 28' Ambassador
1975 31' Excella 500
Bladensburg
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 56
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Okay, so the deadbolt on VTS.com - if I was to purchase this - do I just drill out a new are and install the new deadbolt below or above the old lock?
I just don't want to screw this up and ruin the door.
Currently, I use a bike lock and cable around the handle and pulled tight through the 'railing/handle' that helps you in and out of the trailer... it works... but it is a pain in the rear-end trying to wrap 6 feet of protected rubber cable around that door handle every time I want to lock the door.
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04-21-2011, 07:00 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1961 28' Ambassador
1975 31' Excella 500
Bladensburg
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 56
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The other crazy idea I had was to find a sturdy hasp and rivet it onto the door and frame, then just use a padlock to keep it locked up.
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04-21-2011, 07:05 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy 24
Currently Looking...
Milltown
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,087
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I have owned 2 AS and one Avion and all of them had a dead bolt above the factory door lock. The lock was mounted on the trailer side and the dead bolt when locked went into a pocket in the door. We just used the original lock when we were camping to hold the door closed and used the dead bolt whenever we wanted the trailer locked.
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04-21-2011, 07:32 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1961 28' Ambassador
1975 31' Excella 500
Bladensburg
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 56
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Can somebody show me a pic of how and where to put the deadbolt? It would be much appreciated. I am strongly thinking of doing this asap.
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04-21-2011, 07:33 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1961 28' Ambassador
1975 31' Excella 500
Bladensburg
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 56
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Ventport,
So the lock was mounted on the trailer (door frame), and they created a 'pocket' on the door itself to house the 'shaft' of the extended deadbolt?
How securely would that hold?
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04-21-2011, 07:39 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy 24
Currently Looking...
Milltown
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,087
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04-21-2011, 07:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 61Ambassador
The other crazy idea I had was to find a sturdy hasp and rivet it onto the door and frame, then just use a padlock to keep it locked up.
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The problem with this is someone coming by when you are camped in the trailer and closing the hasp
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Rick Davis 1602 K8DOC
61 tradewind, plus a few others
13 Ram 2500 TD
99 Dodge TD 577K miles
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04-21-2011, 07:55 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1961 28' Ambassador
1975 31' Excella 500
Bladensburg
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickDavis
The problem with this is someone coming by when you are camped in the trailer and closing the hasp
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LOL - I guess that could be a problem. I'm rethinking that 'crazy' idea now. Unless maybe I create a way to lock it open as well.
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04-21-2011, 08:28 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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I like the dead bolt in the trailer body idea. The hasp is ugly. But if you want to prevent someone from locking you in, just mount another Hasp "ring" ( the part the padlock goes in) on the body, then open the hinged part to where it is flat against the trailer install the padlock; this way they can't flip it over the door and lock you in. Also provides a place to store the padlock.
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04-21-2011, 01:41 PM
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,721
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Pictures?
Here is a picture of how I installed the VTS deadbolt in my door. You can install either in the door or in the jamb, but you need to measure carefully so the bolt fits into the channel.
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04-21-2011, 02:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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61 door with new lock
This is what we ended up doing after the original broke.
Not sure why it is there twice, never posted a picture before
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Rick Davis 1602 K8DOC
61 tradewind, plus a few others
13 Ram 2500 TD
99 Dodge TD 577K miles
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