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11-24-2008, 05:35 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1973 23' Safari
north fort myers
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 19
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Key Turns and Turns..is this normal? help
The lock on our 73 Tradewind locks and unlocks but you have to turn the key a bunch of times in the same direction to get it to lock or unlock. Is this normal? Is it broken? Sometimes the key gets stuck and it doesn't want to turn at all until I giggle it a few times and then it will turn.
Also the handle on the door sticks out. It is never flush with the outside.
I appreciate any help!
Thanks, Dave
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11-24-2008, 05:57 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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Yes, as I remember the older style lock takes like 1 1/2 turns of the key to lock and unlock. And, those style locks are problematic. I had to rebuild one on a 70's Argosy once because a part broke inside, and as I remember (it's been a while) it wasn't easy.
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Steve
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11-24-2008, 09:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
North Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,421
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Just be thankful that it locks and unlocks, because this is one very expensive lock to replace or repair. The handle on mine sticks out as well, but I don't worry about it. Welcome to the forums!
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11-24-2008, 10:01 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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Dave,
Are you talking about the door latch lock or the deadbolt? We had the same problem with both our deadbolt and the door latch failing on a trip to Death Valley. We wond up having to break into our own trailer!
If the doorlatch is the problem, it can be repaired fairly simply. If it is the deadbolt, I found that that also can be repaired quite simply depending on what the problem is. On my trailer, we have a Schlage deadbolt. I was able to repair it for the cost of a new deadbolt kit from the hardware store. I have pictures that I need to upload to the web but I can describe the process in greater detail if you need...
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11-24-2008, 10:14 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shiny1973
The lock on our 73 Tradewind locks and unlocks but you have to turn the key a bunch of times in the same direction to get it to lock or unlock. Is this normal? Is it broken? Sometimes the key gets stuck and it doesn't want to turn at all until I giggle it a few times and then it will turn.
Also the handle on the door sticks out. It is never flush with the outside.
I appreciate any help!
Thanks, Dave
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Your lock is expensive to replace, but can be repaired.
The handle position says someone tried to force the lock open.
There are several reasons why the tumbler can turn as you describe.
The right internal lock repair would correct that problem.
Or, for far less money than a new original lock, you can install a different lock, but you must plate the door.
Our lock kit # 22200 would replace the original KT lock, that you now have.
Andy
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11-24-2008, 12:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 27' Safari
Kent
, Ohio
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 806
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On my 73 overlander. It did somthing simialar If I recall. I called the local locksmith. I unscrewed from the inside, I took the whole panel in to his shop and he changed a couple things. WaaLaa problem solved.
On my 71 I lost my keys over the winter. (someone knockedum off the key rack) I took 1 exterior lock in and the door lock in the same fashion. He counted tumblers and made keys for all the locks. I dont think I had $20.00 into either job.
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11-24-2008, 03:17 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Key shops and Locksmiths do not have parts for the Airstream special KT lock.
At this point, they don't have tumblers either.
In fact, Airstream no longer has tumblers that fit the original KT locks, but they do have tumblers that fit a brand new KT lock.
We are the only company that has tumblers that fit the original locks, since we have them made.
Further, internal parts of a KT lock can wearout and/or be damaged. A turning tumbler says that there is a problem with the vertical locking pin, and/or the small spring and ball.
Andy
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11-24-2008, 04:54 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,259
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I installed Andy`s lock kit #22200,works good and looks nice.It just needs better directions [or a smarter person reading them].Had to make a plate to cover old striker hole ,to give striker plate a place to rivet to.Other than that it went very well.
Oh what do I do with the extra pieces?? Dave
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11-24-2008, 06:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 27' Safari
Kent
, Ohio
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 806
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That is why I just had my original redone. It looks original and works new.
Its very easy and parts are readily available. Any locksmith can redue your original Lock.
No fabrication at all
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11-25-2008, 04:28 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1973 23' Safari
north fort myers
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 19
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Thank you all for your input, I really appreciate it!!! I will let you know what I do.
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11-25-2008, 04:57 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Currently Looking...
Denton
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2006
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lock parts
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