Do you need a Bargman L400

[bmklawt]

I thought I had read in the past here on the forums that a Bargman L-400 lock was hard to come by.
I happen to see a new one at the RV place today if anyone needs it. It's grey not shiny like I have seen on coaches, it is missing the plate and handle for the inside and it's a little scratch up but it is new with keys.
If you need it let me know and I'll go get it.
I think it was $69.99

[Silverhobby]

The L-400 has been obsolete since the early 90's when Avion and Holiday Rambler quit using the locks. They do show up on ebay and a few dealers may have them in their older inventory. It is a difficult to find lock. Thanks for posting.

[ticki2]

They must be back , I've seen them listed in several of the RV supply books , the one you see at most RV deralers.

[Silverhobby]

Check the part numbers. There are many Bargman locks, but NOT the L-400.

[flyfshr]

Here's a couple but which one is the L-400?

Brad
FF

[Silverhobby]

The locks picture are labeled in the text, counterclockwise, L-100, L-66, L-77, various catches, L-66 Hand L Lock, L-77 Verti Lock, # 22 Porch Light assist Bar. None of these is the L-400. Pictured is the L-400 installed on my Avion. The L-400 lock was also used on Holiday Rambler and possibly the Silver Streak.

[graydude]

I noticed a repair kit on eBay for the Bargman L-400 lock. It's item number 200492622427.

[graydude]

That lock repair set sold already...but there is one more for sale. It is eBay item number 200493497289.

[clydecrashcu]

What years did the L400 fit?

[Inland RV Center, In]

Originally Posted by clydecrashcu

What years did the L400 fit?

Never any Airstream or Argosy trailers or motorhomes.

Andy

[clydecrashcu]

Andy your post was very helpful to me and I am sure others that may read the original post.

[ventport]

A friend of mine has a 1975 Argosy that had an L400. Are you saying that this was not the original lock? If not what is the correct lock for a 1975 Argosy?

[Inland RV Center, In]

Originally Posted by ventport

A friend of mine has a 1975 Argosy that had an L400. Are you saying that this was not the original lock? If not what is the correct lock for a 1975 Argosy?

The early Argosy trailers, up to 1977, used the KT lock. Airstream trailers used the KT lock from 1970 thru 1977.

The problem with the L-400, is that the striker bolt, is not long enough, compared to the KT lock.

The attached photo clearly shows the difference of the striker bolt. Also, the L-400 is smaller, which would require an adapter plate to cover the original KT lock hole.

The L-400 would have to be disassembled, cut the striker bolt in half, weld on an extension, reassemble the lock, and hope the weld doesn't break, down the road. If it did break, you will not be able to open the entrance door.

Granted, the price difference is huge, and so is the gamble.

Andy

[Inland RV Center, In]

Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In

The early Argosy trailers, up to 1977, used the KT lock. Airstream trailers used the KT lock from 1970 thru 1977.

The problem with the L-400, is that the striker bolt, is not long enough, compared to the KT lock.

The attached photo clearly shows the difference of the striker bolt. Also, the L-400 is smaller, which would require an adapter plate to cover the original KT lock hole.

The L-400 would have to be disassembled, cut the striker bolt in half, weld on an extension, reassemble the lock, and hope the weld doesn't break, down the road. If it did break, you will not be able to open the entrance door.

Granted, the price difference is huge, and so is the gamble.

Andy

Sorry about that.

Andy

[ventport]

Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In

The early Argosy trailers, up to 1977, used the KT lock. Airstream trailers used the KT lock from 1970 thru 1977.


Andy

Do you have a picture of the KT lock, is it still available?

[Inland RV Center, In]

Originally Posted by ventport

Do you have a picture of the KT lock, is it still available?

I have no idea why the labels for the above photo's did not show.

The top lock is the "KT" lock.

The bottom lock is the Bargmann L-400 lock.

The KT lock is still available, but expensive.

Depending on the year trailer, there are kits available that replace the KT lock, that cost much less, but plates must be added to the door.

Andy

[ventport]

Thanks Andy for clearing that up. We have been looking for the wrong door lock.

[MORGRM]

Andy, I just jumped into this message trail and found it fitting. Possilbly you can help me as well. I have broken the door handle on my trailer. the handel ID says Theodore Bargman model 10-40-010 on the lock plate and 10-40-030 on the handle plate. Best I can tell the package looks just like a Bagman L400 which reports to be 6 7/8"x2 3/4". My latch is 6 1/4x 2 1/4". I am new at this and am not sure where to find a L400 of if it might fit. any thoughts you might share would be great.

[Inland RV Center, In]

Originally Posted by MORGRM

Andy, I just jumped into this message trail and found it fitting. Possilbly you can help me as well. I have broken the door handle on my trailer. the handel ID says Theodore Bargman model 10-40-010 on the lock plate and 10-40-030 on the handle plate. Best I can tell the package looks just like a Bagman L400 which reports to be 6 7/8"x2 3/4". My latch is 6 1/4x 2 1/4". I am new at this and am not sure where to find a L400 of if it might fit. any thoughts you might share would be great.

That indeed is the L-400, but the dimensions on the outside are 6 7/8 X 2 7/8.
However, the markings on the inside and outside plates, match your numbers.

Andy

[TXiceman]

I managed to find an L400 to replace the one on my trialer. It was gray and not chrome. It also had a different bolt than the original and it too some modification tot he bolt and spacer. I used the bolt from the old lock and between the old lock and the new one got one good lock for the trailer. I kept the old lock for potential spares.

Ken