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05-17-2010, 09:30 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1968 24' Tradewind
1959 17' Pacer
Vintage Kin Owner
holly springs
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 405
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Can I swap doors?
The small door on my door w/in a door setup on my 64 tradewind is bent, probably repairable (but not by me). I have found a door from a 64 safari, are the small doors interchangeable?
Kevin
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05-17-2010, 10:42 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinb
The small door on my door w/in a door setup on my 64 tradewind is bent, probably repairable (but not by me). I have found a door from a 64 safari, are the small doors interchangeable?
Kevin
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Yes and no.
There are two types of the inner door.
One is flush with the outer door when closed, and the other sticks out from the outer door about 1/2 inch.
Andy
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05-18-2010, 07:02 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1968 24' Tradewind
1959 17' Pacer
Vintage Kin Owner
holly springs
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 405
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Andy
the small door has 2 rectangles a larger one that overlaps the main door by about 1/2" and a smaller one that is inset. Dont know if that makes sense.
kevin
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05-18-2010, 08:30 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinb
Andy
the small door has 2 rectangles a larger one that overlaps the main door by about 1/2" and a smaller one that is inset. Dont know if that makes sense.
kevin
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Kevin.
I have no idea what your trying to explain.
Sorry.
Andy
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05-18-2010, 09:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinb
Andy
the small door has 2 rectangles a larger one that overlaps the main door by about 1/2" and a smaller one that is inset. Dont know if that makes sense.
kevin
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Kevin,
If that picture is your existing door, you have an overlap door not an inset door. What type of door is on the other trailer? I don't know if the doors were originally made on a jig or not, perhaps Andy does. If so, then the replacement door should fit. The two doors on my Liner are not the same. A lot of things about Airstreams are unique to the individual trailer.
Bill
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Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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05-18-2010, 10:40 AM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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I think what Andy is getting at is the 1964 is a unique year. The door with in the door on some models is flush with the face of the door when closed. On earlier door, the door within overlapped the main door and actually is on top of the door surface. That is the difference between inset and overlay.
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05-18-2010, 04:12 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1968 24' Tradewind
1959 17' Pacer
Vintage Kin Owner
holly springs
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 405
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Ok I get it mine is an overlay (Bill is right) If the Safari is also an overlay will it fit or do I just need to get my hands on the actual door and measure? (not so easy at 1000 mi away) Thanks for all the input.
Kevin
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05-18-2010, 04:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinb
Ok I get it mine is an overlay (Bill is right) If the Safari is also an overlay will it fit or do I just need to get my hands on the actual door and measure? (not so easy at 1000 mi away) Thanks for all the input.
Kevin
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Kevin,
Again, it may fit. Measurements would help, but the only way to be sure is to actually fit the door in place. The outside and inside panels are flat and you may be able to modify the size of the frame to fit your trailer. I had to replace the outside panel on both doors on my Liner, not a problem except for finding someone to make the bead on the edges.
Bill
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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05-18-2010, 04:43 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1962 19' Globetrotter
1963 19' Globetrotter
1961 19' Globetrotter
Wheat Ridge
, Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Here is a picture of two 1963 doors of both types of hinges... Hope that helps!
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Wheat Ridge, Colorado
WBCCI # 1962
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05-18-2010, 04:47 PM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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Why not just switch the entire door?
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05-18-2010, 05:19 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1968 24' Tradewind
1959 17' Pacer
Vintage Kin Owner
holly springs
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 405
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 62overlander
Why not just switch the entire door?
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I can do that as well, but will the whole door from a safari fit the tradewind? Also my main door fits well(so rather leave well enough alone if possible) and since my hinge is like the one vinstream shows on the door not attached to a trailer (lowest door in the photo) it would be much easier (I think) to replace just the small door as the hinge rivets are easily accessible. What do you think?
Kevin
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05-18-2010, 05:26 PM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
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That lower door is an overlay. Is that what you have? Another silly question... where is your trailer built and where is the donor trailer built? Coming from the same factory could improve the chances of a direct swap
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05-18-2010, 05:41 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1968 24' Tradewind
1959 17' Pacer
Vintage Kin Owner
holly springs
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 405
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Thanks to this thread I now know its an overlay. Mine is an Ohio girl I'll have to find out where miss Safari is from or better yet since you said" improve your chances" and Bill said"may fit" I think I need to actually get my hands on this baby and see if it fits.
kevin
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05-18-2010, 05:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinb
Thanks to this thread I now know its an overlay. Mine is an Ohio girl I'll have to find out where miss Safari is from or better yet since you said" improve your chances" and Bill said"may fit" I think I need to actually get my hands on this baby and see if it fits.
kevin
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Kevin,
Frank makes a good point, you have a much better chance if both trailers came from the same factory.
Bill
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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05-18-2010, 06:25 PM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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The guys that made the doors in this era were very proud of their work for it was very highly skilled compared to some of the other tasks involved it constructing these rigs. Pretty much one guy made every one. Most of the doors were signed as they were put together. This pride in craftsmanship is working in your favor in terms of consistency. I bet it will swap right out and people will not believe your story of how it was done.
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05-18-2010, 07:34 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1968 24' Tradewind
1959 17' Pacer
Vintage Kin Owner
holly springs
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 405
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thanks for the input I will find out where it was made since the same guy would have to travel a lot to build doors in CA and Ohio!! I see your point about the importance of origin of mfgr. Also it looks like there are only 5 rivets on each hinge holding the small door on. They look like pop rivets, but maybe stainless steel? If anyone knows about these guys dont be shy. I know kind of getting ahead of myself since I dont have the door yet!
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05-18-2010, 07:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 31' Sovereign
1967 22' Safari
1958 22' World Traveler
Pardeeville
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 569
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Kevin...the donor trailer is an Ohio model...
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WBCCI #10917
AIR #32349
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05-18-2010, 08:09 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1968 24' Tradewind
1959 17' Pacer
Vintage Kin Owner
holly springs
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 405
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aircooled4
Kevin...the donor trailer is an Ohio model...
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How did you know about the door?
Seriously I'll call you in a day or two
Kevin
P.S
read your thread you must be the happiest guy on the planet!
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05-18-2010, 08:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 31' Sovereign
1967 22' Safari
1958 22' World Traveler
Pardeeville
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 569
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heres a pic of the door...
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WBCCI #10917
AIR #32349
TAC #WI-2
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05-18-2010, 09:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aircooled4
heres a pic of the door...
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Jay,
Is the deadbolt available?
Bill
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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