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08-23-2008, 08:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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'66 Overlander deadbolt
anyone know the source for the deadbolt lock? latch itself and strike plate still in place, but both exterior and interior lock cylinder are missing. Thanks!
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08-23-2008, 10:32 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goransons
anyone know the source for the deadbolt lock? latch itself and strike plate still in place, but both exterior and interior lock cylinder are missing. Thanks!
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Scott.
Post a couple of detailed photo's, so that I can see if someone installed a 67 dead bolt or something else.
A good photo of the dead bolt striker pocket area will also help.
Andy
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08-23-2008, 10:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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I'll do that tomorrow when we have daylight again. It is definately a stock striker (its cast into the door jam, and the striker is nylon). thanks
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08-24-2008, 09:42 AM
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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lock photos
here's a couple pictures of what remains of the deadbolt. The one is somewhat blurry, couldn't get a better shot, but the lock bolt says "weiser"
thanks
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08-24-2008, 09:46 AM
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Rivet Master
1968 28' Ambassador
Cedaredge
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Andy probably has them! He has everything...
If not you can also look here
http://www.vintagetrailersupply.com/Door_s/10.htm
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08-24-2008, 09:51 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goransons
here's a couple pictures of what remains of the deadbolt. The one is somewhat blurry, couldn't get a better shot, but the lock bolt says "weiser"
thanks
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Scott.
That deadbolt was first used in 1967, but some owners adapted it to the 66's.
That deadbolt has been history for way over 30 years.
I will see what I can come up with that could work correctly.
Also, from your photo's you need 2 of the nylon striker pockets. We have the original mold for them, as well as many in stock.
Andy
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08-24-2008, 10:00 AM
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Thanks Andy, yes striker plates will be on my order, along with weatherstripping for all the windows and doors. Whoever did the mod did a great job, impossible to tell the difference between the stock striker hole and the second (from the back of the jamb).
Please let me know of the lock if you come up with anything. The door itself is going to come off in the next couple weeks and have a great machine shop here fix two cracks in the door itself where the hinge attaches. It appears someon tried to get in with a screwdriver and broke the door frame just above and below the hinge mount. So the deadbolt and lock did it's job at some point. Have to replace the skin below the windows just forward of the door because of all the different dents etc from screw drivers, crow bars etc. Holding the door shut carefully with the cracks closed, the door does not appear to be warped, has even lines up both sides, and proper clearance for the weatherstrip.
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08-25-2008, 05:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,259
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Let me jump on this thread,instead of trying to figure out how to do a new one,there is a door for sale on ebay #180281818760 owner vdoes not know year,can one of you super smart people tell me if it will fit a 77 Overlander? I like the ider of it having a window,and I`ll be going right by there in a couple of weeks.Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,Dave
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08-25-2008, 05:01 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goransons
Thanks Andy, yes striker plates will be on my order, along with weatherstripping for all the windows and doors. Whoever did the mod did a great job, impossible to tell the difference between the stock striker hole and the second (from the back of the jamb).
Please let me know of the lock if you come up with anything. The door itself is going to come off in the next couple weeks and have a great machine shop here fix two cracks in the door itself where the hinge attaches. It appears someon tried to get in with a screwdriver and broke the door frame just above and below the hinge mount. So the deadbolt and lock did it's job at some point. Have to replace the skin below the windows just forward of the door because of all the different dents etc from screw drivers, crow bars etc. Holding the door shut carefully with the cracks closed, the door does not appear to be warped, has even lines up both sides, and proper clearance for the weatherstrip.
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Scott.
This is the best that I can do. This came off of a customers coach strickly for the photo.
Andy
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08-25-2008, 05:09 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easyride
Let me jump on this thread,instead of trying to figure out how to do a new one,there is a door for sale on ebay #180281818760 owner vdoes not know year,can one of you super smart people tell me if it will fit a 77 Overlander? I like the ider of it having a window,and I`ll be going right by there in a couple of weeks.Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,Dave
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No it will not fit your trailer, without extensive work.
The radius corners at the top of the ebay door are much different than yours.
You would have to do some sheet metal work, both in making the door fit, as well as changing the contour of the door. You would also have to install a new door jamb, requiring more sheet metal work.
That door is off of a trailer thats probably 25 years or more, newer than your trailer.
Andy
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08-25-2008, 05:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
Scott.
This is the best that I can do. This came off of a customers coach strickly for the photo.
Andy
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Andy,
What year did that lock come off of? I need a new dead bolt for my Liner. The original dead bolt is a Yale.
Bill
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08-25-2008, 05:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples
, Florida
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Thanks Andy I was hoping for your insight. Dave
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08-25-2008, 05:27 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wkerfoot
Andy,
What year did that lock come off of? I need a new dead bolt for my Liner. The original dead bolt is a Yale.
Bill
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That dead bolt was used in 67 and maybe in 68. Some owners had it installed in 66's, but you had to take the sheet metal off.
I think in Scotts case, the entrance door was replaced, as were several thousands of them, because the cast door frame broke rather easily.
That dead bolt was common to Airstream, since it took a household lock, and modified it with that round shaft, to make it a dead bolt.
That dead bolt "IS NOT A TRAVEL LOCK".
You can open and close the dead bolt from the inside of the trailer, but you can only open the dead bolt from the outside.
Andy
Andy
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08-25-2008, 05:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Thanks Andy, any idea on a source? (gather that person doesn't want to sell the lock?) I haven't had time to go do some hardware store looking, heard that perhaps I could use a mobile home lock if the throw was the same, that evidentially some of the older hometown mom'n pop hardware stores around here have some that are vintage, and made for a thinner door.
I'll check around and report back what I find.
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08-25-2008, 05:32 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goransons
Thanks Andy, any idea on a source? (gather that person doesn't want to sell the lock?) I haven't had time to go do some hardware store looking, heard that perhaps I could use a mobile home lock if the throw was the same, that evidentially some of the older hometown mom'n pop hardware stores around here have some that are vintage, and made for a thinner door.
I'll check around and report back what I find.
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Save your time, as you won't find it.
Airstream took a household lock and modified it to work, and installed a small pin so as not to weaken the cast frame any more than they had to.
There are far better locks that that one, and again, it is not a travel lock.
Andy.
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08-25-2008, 05:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
That dead bolt was used in 67 and maybe in 68. Some owners had it installed in 66's, but you had to take the sheet metal off.
I think in Scotts case, the entrance door was replaced, as were several thousands of them, because the cast door frame broke rather easily.
That dead bolt was common to Airstream, since it took a household lock, and modified it with that round shaft, to make it a dead bolt.
That dead bolt "IS NOT A TRAVEL LOCK".
You can open and close the dead bolt from the inside of the trailer, but you can only open the dead bolt from the outside.
Andy
Andy
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Andy,
What is the difference between a dead bolt and a travel lock?
I will post a picture of the one remaining Yale dead bolt on my Liner tonight.
Bill
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1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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08-25-2008, 05:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Andy, if I'm doing some work on the door anyway, should I just patch that small hole and go without it? Don't want to leave a big hole, but have to do some tasteful repair in that area already.
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08-25-2008, 06:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Andy,
Here are two pictures of my existing deadbolt. Any idea where I can locate a replacement?
Bill
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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08-26-2008, 08:34 AM
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Rivet Master
1968 28' Ambassador
Cedaredge
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2008
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This is what the PO did for a dead bolt on mine... Drill out the door and put it on the body... It isn't to bad of a job and it works... Not going to take it off thats for sure... And I use it..
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May you have at least one sunny day, and a soft chair to sit in..
2008 5.7 L V8 Sequoia
AIR # 31243
WBCCI # 6987
FOUR CORNERS UNIT
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08-26-2008, 08:56 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by purman
This is what the PO did for a dead bolt on mine... Drill out the door and put it on the body... It isn't to bad of a job and it works... Not going to take it off thats for sure... And I use it..
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The previous owner did not do you any favors.
What he did has severely weakened the door jamb, and door frame.
That cast material breaks rather easily.
Andy
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