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03-18-2018, 02:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
, Alabama
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Weboost external antenna
I have had the weboost with the Wilson truckers spring mount antenna for over a year. It works ok but wonder if I’d get better performance if I went to a 4g Omni cylinder type antenna. Anyone have experience with both?
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03-18-2018, 03:31 PM
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4 Rivet Member
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Originally Posted by wulfraat
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Ditto on the SureCall. We have this one and it has worked great for us and comes recommended by a forum member who does these installs for a living...lewster.
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03-18-2018, 03:39 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
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The link took me to a 75ohm version. I think the weboost requires a 50 ohm antenna, right?
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03-18-2018, 03:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Colonel
The link took me to a 75ohm version. I think the weboost requires a 50 ohm antenna, right?
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Yes, 50 ohm. It is also available on Amazon.
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03-21-2018, 06:21 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 30' Classic
Sherwood
, Oregon
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I also just installed the SureCall to feed the SureCall cell booster and Bullet WiFi booster and router.
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03-21-2018, 06:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2022 25' Flying Cloud
NCR
, Ontario
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be sure to get the ant with the same impedance, otherwise you will loose gain from the mismatch.
50 ohm and 75 ohm are not compatible
50 is usually for radios
75 is usually for TV
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03-21-2018, 07:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
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You want the flat directional unit (about 7 inches by 12 inches). It has 10 dB better reception, but you need to be sitting in one place (not rolling).
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2004 Airstream Classic 28 "Willard"
2023 Ram 3500 4x4
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03-22-2018, 07:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NWRVR
I also just installed the SureCall to feed the SureCall cell booster and Bullet WiFi booster and router.
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Love the mount. Looks like one I had on my boat back in the day. Would mind sharing what type it is and where did you purchase it?
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03-22-2018, 11:45 PM
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2015 30' Classic
Sherwood
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mojoe7009
Love the mount. Looks like one I had on my boat back in the day. Would mind sharing what type it is and where did you purchase it?
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I bought the PDQ Connect One Source for cell, WiFi and HDTV fed from the PDQ Omni-directional antenna. They supplied a SureCall cell booster, Bullet WiFi booster, router and all the associated coax, internal antennas, etc. They supply solutions to the marine side hence the marine mount which is the same as I have on my boat for the VHS which is perfect as I have to lower it to clear the garage overhead. I kept the TV on the Winegard Omni RoadStar because the Winegard booster will not work behind the three way splitter so I used the two way splitter and raised the RoadStar above the AC. Heading to the coast this weekend for our first trip out, hopefully it will prove to have been worth the cost and effort!
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03-23-2018, 12:12 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Portland
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How did you folks get the antenna wire inside the trailer, especially on the newer Airstreams with a double roof?
I would have loved to use the TV antenna cable since we never watch live TV. Is there a way? This is for the WeBoost 4G-X if that matters.
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03-23-2018, 06:05 AM
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Refrigerator vent. Remove the cap, then carefully run it under the screen over the vent stack. 3M VHB the cover back down the cover the base with SikaFlex 221.
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03-23-2018, 04:26 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 30' Classic
Sherwood
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daleyocum
How did you folks get the antenna wire inside the trailer, especially on the newer Airstreams with a double roof?
I would have loved to use the TV antenna cable since we never watch live TV. Is there a way? This is for the WeBoost 4G-X if that matters.
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As mojoe says. You have to drill out the rivets holding down the vent cover. I used SS sheet metal screws to replace and covered with Siikaflex 221. I have fished this vent on an International Serenity 25FB and now on my Classic 30. I found it was easier to fish the 25 as the Classic is a lot tighter. I used a cheap Harbor Freight screw together fiberglass fishing rod for fishing wire to push up from the bottom until I found the top and then was able to spot the rod from the vent and pull it up far enough to attach the coax. Be sure to also attach some nylon kitchen cord to it so the next time you can just tie on and pull down. Good luck!
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03-23-2018, 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NWRVR
As mojoe says. You have to drill out the rivets holding down the vent cover. I used SS sheet metal screws to replace and covered with Siikaflex 221. I have fished this vent on an International Serenity 25FB and now on my Classic 30. I found it was easier to fish the 25 as the Classic is a lot tighter. I used a cheap Harbor Freight screw together fiberglass fishing rod for fishing wire to push up from the bottom until I found the top and then was able to spot the rod from the vent and pull it up far enough to attach the coax. Be sure to also attach some nylon kitchen cord to it so the next time you can just tie on and pull down. Good luck!
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Just drill off the tops of the rivets. Then use 3M VHB tape on the under side of the vent cover to reattach it, no need for screws. Be sure both surfaces are clean and use alcohol to be sure there is no oily residue before reattaching the cover. Then cover the whole vent cover base with SikaFlex 221, taking care to be sure all the rivet holes are covered. It won’t move once the SikaFlex cures.
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03-23-2018, 04:45 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 30' Classic
Sherwood
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daleyocum
How did you folks get the antenna wire inside the trailer, especially on the newer Airstreams with a double roof?
I would have loved to use the TV antenna cable since we never watch live TV. Is there a way? This is for the WeBoost 4G-X if that matters.
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Unless the newer AS is different, you can pull out the HDTV booster and disconnect the antenna coax, insert a double female to attach your coax to the WeBoost coax assuming it tolerates 75 ohm coax.
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03-23-2018, 07:26 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 30' Classic
Sherwood
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mojoe7009
Just drill off the tops of the rivets. Then use 3M VHB tape on the under side of the vent cover to reattach it, no need for screws. Be sure both surfaces are clean and use alcohol to be sure there is no oily residue before reattaching the cover. Then cover the whole vent cover base with SikaFlex 221, taking care to be sure all the rivet holes are covered. It won’t move once the SikaFlex cures.
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Understood, but I used screws to facilitate ease of removal in the future. Removing something held down with VHB tape is a bear....
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03-23-2018, 07:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NWRVR
Understood, but I used screws to facilitate ease of removal in the future. Removing something held down with VHB tape is a bear....
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True that! I understand, I’m hoping I only have to remove it one time! I hope my comment did not come off as criticizing, just offering an alternative.
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03-23-2018, 11:42 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 30' Classic
Sherwood
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mojoe7009
True that! I understand, I’m hoping I only have to remove it one time! I hope my comment did not come off as criticizing, just offering an alternative.
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No offense taken, more than one solution to the same problem is what makes the forum so valuable.
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03-24-2018, 12:30 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Portland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NWRVR
Unless the newer AS is different, you can pull out the HDTV booster and disconnect the antenna coax, insert a double female to attach your coax to the WeBoost coax assuming it tolerates 75 ohm coax.
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Has anybody actually tried mating the 50ohm to 75ohm cables? I wonder how big a loss that impedance mismach would cause?
Thanks for all the advice to on going down the fridge vent. I suspect I’ll end up doing that unless a better idea presents itself. I have to run solar wires as well so it’s good to know what I’m facing.
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09-23-2018, 09:18 AM
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New Member
2018 28' Flying Cloud
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2018
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does it work to hook up the coax from the outside antenna to the satellite in connection on the outside of the trailer and then run the coax that hooks up to the inside receiver to the satellite out connection inside the trailer? Would that eliminate the need to come though the roof?
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