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07-01-2018, 10:04 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2008 27' Safari FB SE
Long Beach
, California
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Re-Purpose Telephone Jacks?
I'm astounded that my 2008 27FB was built with telephone jacks. Presumably an input outside and then jacks for extensions inside.
I'm curious if anyone has done anything with these jacks/wiring?
I don't think phone lines can carry much data - except back in dial-up days?
Or is is just a funny anachronism to look at for conversation?
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07-02-2018, 04:12 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
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Quit that, you're making me feel old.
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07-02-2018, 05:10 AM
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Retired.
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They will carry quite a bit of data. That's how DSL works, after all.
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07-03-2018, 08:21 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 30' International
Florence
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LBOskiBear
I'm astounded that my 2008 27FB was built with telephone jacks. Presumably an input outside and then jacks for extensions inside.
I'm curious if anyone has done anything with these jacks/wiring?
I don't think phone lines can carry much data - except back in dial-up days?
Or is is just a funny anachronism to look at for conversation?
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Pop the covers off and see if they ran twisted pair and if it was 8 conductor or just 4. If it’s twisted you could use it for Ethernet. If it’s 8 conductor cat5 you could get up to 1gig; if not you might be limited to 10/100. But that’s assuming you have something to connect to on the outside. Everyone just uses campground WiFi now.
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07-03-2018, 08:45 AM
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Rivet Master
1969 18' Caravel
Greenville
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Join Date: Dec 2017
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Phone jacks! Imagine! My '69 has the funky three-prong jack for a TV antenna, and they even put 8-track players in some models a few years later! I think they still install RCA jacks and coax in them today.
Your ubiqutous HDMI and USB Type A jacks will soon seem just as anachronistic. The great thing about having solid technical standards is that there are so many of them to choose from -- AND they last at least a good year now before they are obsolete.
It would be great if AS just installed conduit and let us snake in and out cabling over time. Cabling? Ha! The future is wireless! Or was it "Plastics?"
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07-03-2018, 10:12 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2008 27' Safari FB SE
Long Beach
, California
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 238
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skyguyscott
Phone jacks! Imagine! My '69 has the funky three-prong jack for a TV antenna, and they even put 8-track players in some models a few years later! I think they still install RCA jacks and coax in them today.
Your ubiqutous HDMI and USB Type A jacks will soon seem just as anachronistic. The great thing about having solid technical standards is that there are so many of them to choose from -- AND they last at least a good year now before they are obsolete.
It would be great if AS just installed conduit and let us snake in and out cabling over time. Cabling? Ha! The future is wireless! Or was it "Plastics?"
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Indeed - a conduit would have been great for running whatever we want.
I do find it a bit odd that my 2008 model still had the telephone jack.
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07-03-2018, 10:41 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 30' International
Florence
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 493
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skyguyscott
It would be great if AS just installed conduit and let us snake in and out cabling over time. Cabling? Ha! The future is wireless! Or was it "Plastics?"
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^^^This! This would have been so helpful when it comes to adding external antennas, replacing any of the electronics, etc.
I’ve often thought this should be true for homes as well.
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07-03-2018, 11:31 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Yup. Nowadays I just run lots of 'Smurf tube**' anchored properly to undedicated low voltage wall boxes in strategic locations...but minimize the bends--unless you LIKE not being able to use a pull snake to put wires in the stuff...don't ask how I learned this...
** The weird blue corrugated flex conduit available in nice handy rolls in the big box home improvement stores, preferably the bigger diameter the better.
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Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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07-03-2018, 01:57 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 30' International
Florence
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
Yup. Nowadays I just run lots of 'Smurf tube**' anchored properly to undedicated low voltage wall boxes in strategic locations...but minimize the bends--unless you LIKE not being able to use a pull snake to put wires in the stuff...don't ask how I learned this...
** The weird blue corrugated flex conduit available in nice handy rolls in the big box home improvement stores, preferably the bigger diameter the better.
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Start running some pull string in those as well and you’ll have a really easy job.
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07-03-2018, 02:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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I've occasionally had the problem of pull strings cutting into the tube or tangling with existing wires. Nowadays I just use a nice electrician's steel snake to pull stuff, and lots of insulation-friendly water-based lubricant wiped on thinly with a rag as I pull the wires in. I also use a lot of good electrical tape to secure the wires to the snake to help prevent snagging. Seems to work a bit better.
If I could find my stashed bundle of dry-lubed fabric pull TAPE, it would be easier than the greasy mess I usually end up cleaning off the wiring, but, such is life...
I'm a little old-fashioned, and a computer security Wonk at my day job, so I tend to like nice, well-shielded and grounded WIRED networks. Call me paranoid if you wish, but I'm finding that paranoia pays quite well in this business...
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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07-13-2018, 12:34 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,742
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Hi
Based on pulling wires here and there .... you likely will "discover" multiple holes that the wires pass through. If your luck is as bad as mine ... they aren't very big
Bob
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08-18-2018, 02:38 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1973 31' Sovereign
1978 Argosy 30
1985 31' Excella
Sacramento
, California
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
Yup. Nowadays I just run lots of 'Smurf tube**' anchored properly to undedicated low voltage wall boxes in strategic locations...but minimize the bends--unless you LIKE not being able to use a pull snake to put wires in the stuff...don't ask how I learned this...
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Well what to use the old telephone wires for....
one use would be to put a intercom in the trailer.... that way you wouldn't have to yell from the front to the back.. and besides.. what other RV trailer has a doorbell as well as a intercom from the front to the back... 20 ft away...
Yep just what you need in a camping trailer ...
Just another example of how airstream is ahead of its time...
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