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GeeSag · 10-02-2019, 07:21 PM

Does anyone know the default password to log in via a web browser.
The default IP address is 10.11.12.1
and it comes up with login
default user: admin
which I would expect.

But does anyone know the default password for the web access? Please send it in private message.
The Manula is lacking the level of detail.
Surely, and Hopefully, they have not got us locked out of seeing the WiFi side of our own router.

I am hoping to see RSRP and SINR over on a web guy portal.

Remember: Hope is a strategy!

TerryHHI · 10-02-2019, 07:47 PM

Total cost for hardware and install was $695.

I’ll post a picture of switch tomorrow.

GeeSag · 10-02-2019, 08:06 PM

Here is an interesting thing to report about ToGo.

When I use ToGo on either my Macbook or windows PC,
and I go to AirForums.Com
and then try to login,

I get into a "Redirect" problem.
Happens on both PC and MAC.

But then I go back to Centurylink DSL (WiFi), and I can log into airforums.com just fine.

And it is repeatable: When using ToGo WiFI to PC and MAC, and ToGO is LTE as WAN,
I get too many redirects on attmpting to log into airforums.com.
But then I swtich PC or Mac over to use Centurylink WiFi and I connect just fine.

Can anyone on Airforums, explain too many redirects?

I did the Safari: System > Preferences > Privacy > Cookies > Manage Data > Remove All.....still same result.

And yet when I repeat and go back to Centurylink DSL (WiFI), I can can log into airfourms just fine.

While on ToGO, I can surf and get various articles on Wall street Journal to verify I am getting valid internet access.

Just too many redirects problem on ToGo PC or Mac thru ToGo out through AT&T LTE.

Any Help Please?

GeeSag · 10-02-2019, 08:42 PM

This is scary: No password needed to join.

The ToGo is set up for WPA2.

And as part of WPS allowing auto-join without a password if a user pushes a WPS button on the WiFi access point, all is fine.

Except:

There is not button to push on the ToGO.

Then why did my MacBook connect via WiFi to the ToGO and not ask fo a password?

My iPhone and my PC both required I enter the WiFI Password.

But the MacBook did not.

Sort of scary.

Maybe someone in air forums can better explain all the cool new capabilities of WPS and auto-join that allows devices to auto join without pushing anything on the wifi access point and not entering a password.

Sort of what is the point of WPS WPA2 if it is wide open for auto join.

Maybe there is a setting I need to toggle in the ToGo.

Any Help would be appreciated.

**wulfraat** · 10-02-2019, 09:17 PM

Togo looks like an interesting option. I am curious about real world speeds everyone is seeing in the wild? It’s great that the plan has no hard caps or throttles, and is only subject to network management at times of tower congestion.

It’s unfortunate though that it’s based on quite outdated category 4 cellular modem hardware with limited band coverage and no carrier aggregation.

I’m still on my Verizon prepaid unlimited $65 / mo plan with the same uncapped / unthrottled usage with network management... this plan was only offered for a brief period in late 2018 / early 2019 before being discontinued and I am one of the lucky few who got in on it..... the advantage is that the plan is not locked to a device and can be leveraged on the very latest category 18 modem (inseego 8800) with broad spectrum support, carrier aggregation, 4x4 MIMO antenna system all combined to deliver up to about 70Mbps download speeds out in the wild....

TerryHHI · 10-03-2019, 05:43 AM

This morning in Fort Myers we are getting 18 mbps download and 10 up with TOGO. Accessing web feels just like home. I imagine if we were pushing up big files we would notice slower speeds. We don’t push big files so isn’t an issue.

Streamed Netflix last night with no lag or buffering.

Still impressed with TOGO. We are headed to Cedar Key tomorrow. We will see what happens in a rural situation.

turk123 · 10-03-2019, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeeSag

This is scary: No password needed to join.

The ToGo is set up for WPA2.

And as part of WPS allowing auto-join without a password if a user pushes a WPS button on the WiFi access point, all is fine.

Except:

There is not button to push on the ToGO.

Then why did my MacBook connect via WiFi to the ToGO and not ask fo a password?

My iPhone and my PC both required I enter the WiFI Password.

But the MacBook did not.

Sort of scary.

Maybe someone in air forums can better explain all the cool new capabilities of WPS and auto-join that allows devices to auto join without pushing anything on the wifi access point and not entering a password.

Sort of what is the point of WPS WPA2 if it is wide open for auto join.

Maybe there is a setting I need to toggle in the ToGo.

Any Help would be appreciated.

I understand that the TOGO's router is completely software accessible. If that is true, log into the router and check to see if the "Guest" access is turned on from the factory. You can shut it off. I would also shut off WiFi as WAN if that is turned on. Just like the Airstream installation, and the Peplink modem, this may have that turned on from the start. WiFi as WAN polls the area you are in looking for wifi signals. If you get into a campground that has campers with hotspots, it will check every one. The Peplink does this every two seconds not something you want happening while streaming Netflix. It can cause a ten-fold reduction in bandwidth.

Some modems offer WiFi as WAN with a 30-second search interval. That makes them less noticeable and less hit is taken on the speed. Best to turn it off. Campground WiFi never works anyway.

TerryHHI · 10-03-2019, 06:56 AM

The TOGO manual and app act like you make a choice between ATT data or WiFi. The apps makes you select one or the other and then connects to the selected source. The app then shows you the source. I don’t believe there’s a way to combine or aggregate connectivity.

I haven’t tried WiFi yet because it isn’t available where we are staying.

GeeSag · 10-03-2019, 04:42 PM

Here are a couple screen shots of ToGo on a PoGo (i.e. pole)

I am getting 17 meg down inside the trailer at 6:00 pm Thursday night in the Raleigh Durham area, so I expect the network is somewhat congested this time of night.

The 17 meg is based on the ToGo App speed test, not my PC speed test.

Notice: it only shows download, not upload in the app speedtest.

ToGo will not allow log in via the web Browser GUI. if you put in 10.11.12.1, it brings up the web brouser GUI interface with login auto-populated with admin, but I do not know the password.

I emailed Winegard tech support. They were clear: ToGo is phone app only. Not Web access for end users. They are not giving out the password. They were clear on that.

It also accepts SSH, but without a password, a login prompt to the SSH connection was as far as I got.

No response to Telnet.

The ToGo is AMAZINGLY Light.....it is a plastic shell filled with air.
I was shocked how light it was.
I am not worried about the pole at all.

And for all the naysayers out there, I do have Guy Wires.

GeeSag · 10-03-2019, 06:39 PM

So the WiFi off Togo appears to be strong.

I am sitting in the house 150 feet away from the ToGo outside in a carport.

The house has Aluminum siding, (Think Tin-Man Movie)

So WiFi Penetration from there to here is fairly amazing.

And add to that the ToGo is sitting medium height next to the side of the Airstream, the Airstream is also blocking direct line of sight.

Definitely a plus one for ToGo WiFi when using LTE WAN

nryn · 10-03-2019, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeeSag

Then why did my MacBook connect via WiFi to the ToGO and not ask fo a password?

My iPhone and my PC both required I enter the WiFI Password.

But the MacBook did not.

This behavior has nothing to do with your ToGo equipment. Assuming your iPhone and your MacBook use the same AppleID, after your phone is connected to a network, your other devices will all automatically have the password to that network (presumably via Keychain). This feature debuted 3-4 years ago I think.

Hope that helps.

GeeSag · 10-03-2019, 08:14 PM

Thanks nryn.
Yeah one of my coworkers explained to me today also about the Apple devices sharing the same id.

At first it was shocking to expect to be requested a WiFi Password and not get requested.

This does point to one "Feature" of the ToGo that I do not like: The lack of seeing any real data on the ToGo, such as the list of devices currently connected.

The data shown in the App for ToGo I would rate as "Abysmal" in terms of what I would expect from any WiFi / LTE Modem.

I guess AT&T feels the user does not need to see any of that data.

TerryHHI · 10-04-2019, 03:30 PM

TOGO report. We had internet issues during the drive from Fort Myers to Cedar Key, FL. For some unknown reason we could see the TOGO unit but could not connect to Internet.

Once we arrived in Cedar Key everything started working and speeds are great - 27 mbps down and 7 up.

daleyocum · 10-04-2019, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryHHI

TOGO report. We had internet issues during the drive from Fort Myers to Cedar Key, FL. For some unknown reason we could see the TOGO unit but could not connect to Internet.

Once we arrived in Cedar Key everything started working and speeds are great - 27 mbps down and 7 up.

That makes sense if there wasn't AT&T service on the drive. The Togo has a router inside it so you'd always be able to see it even if it can't connect to the internet.

GeeSag · 10-07-2019, 06:21 PM

I will be monitoring connectivity as we drive.

I suspect the ToGo does not support UMTS HSPA (In other words 3G or AT&T's first attempt at 4G before LTE)

The NightHawk and the AT&T "Wireless Internet" Device do appear to support UMTS.

I had the AT&T Wireless internet device on a recent drive in Appalachia and was noticing how many times it switched from LTE to UMTS.

So I suspect the Nighthawk / Wireless Internet Devices would allow connectivity in these remote areas while the ToGo probably would not.

The RVMobileInternet indicates the ToGo to support UMTS HSPA, but the actual product from Winegard makes no mention of supporting it on the product documentation.

Does anyone know if ToGo does support UMTS HSPA? (alias pre-LTE high speed packet data access)

My Thoughts are: if a person can live with the limited data plans of the NightHawk or the Wireless Internet Device, then they are a superior product in several ways.

P.S. I agree with Chris & Cherie: Wireless Internet is about as bad a product name as ever.

Tkalb2 · 10-09-2019, 06:10 PM

GeeSag do you mind sharing the Info on mounting bracket you used for your Togo? I’m thinking about a similar mount on my weboost antenna pole.

daleyocum · 10-09-2019, 06:35 PM

I used these brackets from McMaster along with VHB tape and Silkaflex to mount mine. Given the speed technology in this area is moving I didn't want to drill holes to mount it. Sadly these only come in 3/8" bolt size so you have to drill out the hole on the Togo. It takes a 1" 3/8-16 stainless bolt and two stainless washers for each hole.

GeeSag · 10-09-2019, 07:13 PM

My bracket is
Two pieces of 1 inch aluminum angle to match the bolt holes on the ToGo
One piece of 2 inch aluminum angle to cross brace
One 2 inch flat to extend the 2" angle to provide enough vertical separation of the U-Bolts to get the U-Bolts low enough on the Pole to avoid them being right at the very top. This also keeps the pole slightly off the bottom of the ToGo when mounted to avoid any pressure on the center of the ToGo.

Two Antenna Mast Bolts to match the inch and a half pipe diameter.

A little welding, drilling and painting
And, Oh, did I mention and a little lack of patience.
In terms of not waiting a full 24 hours for the Paint to cure.......Dry to Touch means Dry to Test, doesn't it!

Tkalb2 · 10-10-2019, 04:21 AM

Awesome thanks for the ideas.

EKB847 · 10-10-2019, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daleyocum

”Given the speed technology in this area is moving I didn't want to drill holes to mount it. Sadly these only come in 3/8" bolt size so you have to drill out the hole on the Togo.

Nice install.

I found a link to these as a possible “no holes” mount alternative. Still not perfect because the ToGo floats above the roof instead of being flush mounted, but getting there.

https://rvsolarstore.com/index.php?r...product_id=112