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Old 07-02-2015, 03:26 PM   #1
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Satellite & Solar Installed at factory or after?

We have currently have a AS on order and had the Satellite & Solar panels added to the order. Looking at the price now it seems that there is an extensive mark up, but we thought it be convenient to have it done at the factory. Any suggestions on if we should change our minds on this (not sure if we can). Is satellite even really necessary with so many TV options over the Internet? I'm showing it was $2500 for this option. Seems pretty steep to me. Any help would be so appreciated!
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Old 07-02-2015, 03:55 PM   #2
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Much better more powerful solar systems available. See the solar system postings. Look at the AMSolar website. Exchange emails with Marvin Braun or Lew Farber who can discuss options. The $2500 sounds like solar only. Solar can be installed on the line, probably the satellite would be after delivery in the service shop for an additional charge.

Streaming of TV over the Internet is problematic. WiFi connections in most RV parks don't handle it and it gets expensive if you use a MiFi device due to the amount of data required.
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Old 07-02-2015, 05:58 PM   #3
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I have had great luck over the past 4 years with the aftermarket solar panel, satellite TV, and a Verizon Jet-pack wifi. No problems with any of them.
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Old 07-02-2015, 08:52 PM   #4
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AM Solar offers better value for money spent. I am running 403 watts of their system, and it was amazingly simple to install. They provide everything, label everything, give you every little piece you need. You end up needing nothing.

Here is what I spent:

Refrigerator Vent C-Box
1 $60.00 $60.00

SunRunner Signature 25MPPT/6/PRO Core
1 $799.99 $799.99

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3 $449.99 $1,349.97

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3 $35.00 $105.00

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2 $10.00 $20.00

Subtotal: $2,334.96
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Total Charges: $2,351.96

403 Watts VS the pathetic Airstream 50 watt panel.
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Old 07-02-2015, 10:22 PM   #5
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Thank you so much ! There was so many items to look at and now I'm nervous we may have jumped the gun on few options!
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Old 07-02-2015, 11:19 PM   #6
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You won't regret it, every solar system has limitations which you will learn to operate within.

Our new Airstream was a dealer inventory order with every option, we bought it the day it arrived and every one has made our travel experience better. The satellite option I'm not familiar with.

The solar amounted to two 53 watt panels, two Lifeline AGM batteries, controller, and monitor, all nicely installed. Enough for lighting, entertainment, water pump, fans in sunny, open western travel. The weakness is not the solar but the battery storage capacity.

We have a Honda 2000i generator when that's not enough, but have traveled the last couple of years without it along. Four years and all doing fine, we've talked of a Lithium Ion battery and associated equipment upgrade when the price moderates.

I think the solar was about $2500 but that was inside the negotiable new trailer MSRP, we paid less.
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Old 07-03-2015, 08:51 PM   #7
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Factory does a poor job of solar. Anything you can have the dealer or aftermarket dealers do have them do it. Same said with the charger, inverter and even the batteries.
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Old 07-03-2015, 09:15 PM   #8
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Our AS sales manager told us flat out not to order the solar or satellite options. He assured us that we can get much better systems, for less money, after we take delivery of our ordered coach. This guy know his stuff and we went with his recommendation.

We already know we're going to go with the Winegard Travler HD for DirecTV, as we have used that same system on two Class A motor coaches and love the hi-def wherever we are and the quality of the Winegard set-up. Great system. The dish itself runs around $1700 or so these days, as I recall.

As for solar, we haven't decided on a system yet, but will do so when the coach comes in later this month.
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Old 07-03-2015, 10:52 PM   #9
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DHart I'm probably stating the obvious but the amount of space the Travl'r takes up on an AS roof may limit the amount of solar you can install. See the postings from BAB on his 2015 Classic at 30ft. He moved some stuff around and still has plenty of room for solar. Smaller trailers start to be challenging.
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Old 07-06-2015, 09:26 AM   #10
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I don't have solar.
Satellite is less expensive as a DIY project- a receiver from home and a portable dish antenna-
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Old 07-06-2015, 09:36 AM   #11
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Not a big TV fan but for new orders I'd get the stock TV antenna replaced with the Jack antenna. I've read the antenna Airstream now installs is a downgrade in reception from the Winegard Sensar installed up to 2014. Tailgater satellite is popular but satellite is not for us.

For solar we purchased a Zamp 200w portable system. I park the Airstream in the shade and position the panel out in the sun. Cost is about $800. We don't run AC devices except for chargers and we have a small portable sinewave inverter to run the TV or charge computers/camera batteries. Phones charge off the 12v sockets in the trailer.

The only advantage I can see in spending the money of roof mounted solar is if you want to run a lot of AC powered appliances and it will charge your batteries while towing better than the tow vehicle umbilical connection. You would need to change out the converter/charger to a better unit as part of the upgrade.
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I installed my sat TV after my delivery. Cost was around $600 for dish and $800 for dealer to install. I already had receiver. Note with directtv you can only have standard def. can't really see the difference on led tvs but you will need a splitter to connect both tvs to system. Sounds cheaper after the fact than factory done. My dealer did a fabulous job.


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Old 07-09-2015, 02:31 PM   #13
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I installed my sat TV after my delivery. Cost was around $600 for dish and $800 for dealer to install. I already had receiver. Note with directtv you can only have standard def. can't really see the difference on led tvs but you will need a splitter to connect both tvs to system. Sounds cheaper after the fact than factory done. My dealer did a fabulous job.


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You are incorrect on this. With the Winegard Trav'ler antenna, you have full Hi-Definition reception. We've used DirecTV with Winegard Trav'ler on two different motorhomes and will use it on our Airstream.

One push of a button and they open up, seek, find, and lock on to the satellites. When you're ready to leave camp, one push of a button and they store themselves away flat and inconspicuous. They do all the work automatically. Awesome dish antenna!
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You won't regret it, every solar system has limitations which you will learn to operate within.

The solar amounted to two 53 watt panels, two Lifeline AGM batteries, controller, and monitor, all nicely installed.

I think the solar was about $2500 but that was inside the negotiable new trailer MSRP, we paid less.
I would instantly regret paying that knowing that I over paid for 106 watts of marginal solar.

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