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Old 09-02-2016, 05:58 PM   #15
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My wife suggested a "Rubber coater" she had in the drawer. I told her that will not be stable enough in a wind storm. I gave it a try and it works very very well! "OK honey, your on the design team"

My other option was as suggested earlier (but not under the tire) was to fabricate a strip of metal that is held not by the tire, but the stabilizer jack. It just needs to be a long bolt (pointing upward) mounted on the end of a flat sheet of aluminum.
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Old 09-02-2016, 06:00 PM   #16
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Old 09-02-2016, 06:16 PM   #17
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So you ask?

I know someone out there who has been once deprived of the internet and is pushing the envelope to get the best signal, is going to ask, "Can you add another section to the top to make it even higher?"

The answer is "Yes!" Right now the stability is very good. I haven't got the antenna yet, but if supported properly at the bottom, the stainless tube is very strong. It has .065" thick walls and weighs about 5 1/2 pounds per 5' section. The problem is that how manageable will it be especially around power lines and such. If you notice in the picts, I had to be careful of the nearby wires. You don't want to electrify your whole trailer!
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Old 09-02-2016, 06:24 PM   #18
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Old 09-02-2016, 08:26 PM   #19
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The attachment to the awning does not look strong enough to handle a strong wind to me.

Where are you storing the antenna
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Old 09-02-2016, 08:57 PM   #20
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The attachment to the awning does not look strong enough to handle a strong wind to me.

Where are you storing the antenna
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The attachment is just what i had laying around. It will be stronger.

It will be stored in the rear bumper as mentioned earlier.
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:39 AM   #21
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Bottom brace

Here is what I worked out for the bottom brace. I'm using a 7/8 x 1 1/16 rubber stopper to fit snuggly into the tube. Make sure you sand the bottom edges of the tube or it will cut into the rubber. I bought two stoppers for this reason.

The metal rib is aluminum (of course) and on one side I added a rubber "tread like" friction pad (from Home Depot) The bolt is three inches long to make sure the extension tube doesn't pop itself off. It fits nice and tight on the rubber stopper.

Crank down the rear stabilizer jack and it's not going anywhere.
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:52 PM   #22
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Recieved the goods

I received the radiolabs marine XL antenna and the repeater today. Hooked everything up to do a little testing. In my neighborhood, I am able to see about 6 or 7 wifi networks (all properly secure). After setting up the gear and hoisting the antenna on top of the mast, I dived into the manual and setup the inside network. The repeater will be located in the refrigerator outer compartment. There is a 120 plug there and I can plug the repeater into it to be shared with the refrigerator. I put some velcro on the back of the repeater and up along the right side of the compartment where the metal changes to wood and with the antenna sticking up into the airspace along side of the refrigerator. I testing the signal strength of the repeater with an iphone ap that allowed me to walk around the trailer to see if the signal dropped out. It didn't. Very consistent throughout. The antenna plugs into the router and with this setup you will need a USB powered extension cable. Radiolabs sells them. The cable from the antenna is only 15' long; too short to reach the compartment.

In the setup process, radiolabs has you survey the area for wifi signals. I found about 50! Five of the networks were not "locked" so in the interest of testing, I grabbed one to see how it's signal was. Download speed was 8mb and up was 5 mb. Not bad if you are into stealing your neighbor's wifi! All the other but one, were almost as strong. Guess I should wander down the street with my signal tester to see how far away they are, and maybe let them know that their wifi is open.

I'm going to try a hotspot test next. Set up a hotspot on my phone and send my wife walking down the street to see how far away I can still see her signal.

Pictures to follow. It's dark here right now.
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The repeater in it's "refrigerator" rear location works quite well. It even reaches into the house!

I tested the systems capabilities by setting up a wifi hotspot on my wife's cell phone. I sent her walking down the street. Normally a hotspot on her phone is good for about 100' line of sight. When she reached the bend (about 600' away) I tested the signal. 92% 65mbps capable and was able to get 6 mb down and 9 MB up! Keep walking.

At the end of the street about an 1/8 of a mile away the signal dropped to 62% and about 24 mbps. I still could get 1mb (or a little less) down but had 2 mb up. I believe the antenna transmitter sends out a very strong signal for the up to be faster than the down.

Very successful! Cell phones do not have very strong transmitters so this should mean that an actual wifi router will transmit much further.
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If you have Comcast Xfinity you can pick up "Guest" hot spots that all Xfinity routers broadcast unless specifically turned off by the owner. All you have to do is enter your Xfinity password. We have a loft in the Pearl District of Portland, OR for which we discontinued the internet subscription because we are there infrequently. Two years ago there were no hotspots, this year we have three to choose from.
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Interesting. So aside from the ability to attach a giant-sized antenna, are there any other advantages over a wifi ranger?
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Interesting. So aside from the ability to attach a giant-sized antenna, are there any other advantages over a wifi ranger?
OK, I'm not an electrical engineer, but I do have some of the specs.

Ranger 1W
XL 3.1W

Ranger 8.5 DB
XL 12 db

Here is where it gets complicated. DB is logarithmic so 8 to 12 is not 1/3 more but a lot more. Also wattage enters the picture and it too is logarithmic. Frequency is also a factor as higher frequencies carry more bandwidth but not as far. My antenna can use the "N" network (5 ghz) but falls back to 2.4 for distance. Longer antennas perform better with lower frequencies (mine is bigger than yours : )) My antenna is also higher in the air. This is a big factor for line of sight operation. I my be higher than the coach next to me that could block the signal. Compared to cell phones, your antenna 1-watt system should perform 30 times better (radiolabs has a similar antenna to the wifi-ranger and explained this to me) My system is approximately 60 time better (as told to me by them).

I would love to have an engineer step in and look at both specs to get a better-unbiased evaluation. Right now I'm relying on what I've been told.

Radiolabs is a USB based system. Wifi-ranger has to have power to the antenna no data line coming down. Both work well. Radio labs can plug directly into the USB port of a computer for simplicity. I bought the repeater router to make a personal network in the trailer. Ranger has the router in the antenna. Radiolabs is a little less expensive as I bought even with the large antenna. I had to add the extension mast bringing it to about the same cost.

Mine will pick up more and really kicks when transmitting. If someone wants to upload travel videos, my system is much much faster due to the increase in transmitting power. I'm getting "up" speeds faster than "down".

I hope that helps. For convenience and ease of use, the smaller roof mount antennas probably make more sense. As I said in my very first post, I was trying to get the best possible signal.
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