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Old 02-10-2008, 05:29 PM   #1
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Portable satellite dishes

Am new to portable satellites -- have box hooked up, and wiring with stationary dish previously used. Am concerned about type of portable dish to buy and being electronically challenged am also concerned regarding the on site hookup with the tv zip codes set ups -- how does all that work? Is is tough for the neophyte?
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No the hookup is easy. I bought a dish network antenna and tri-pod from the local camper supply place. The paper work from your particular carrier has charts, by zip code that tell you the azimuth ( left/right in degrees) and the elevation to set on the antenna - dish network also has a 'skew' to set (the tilt, left or right of the antenna dish). I carry a 200' coax cable so I can find a line of site that avoids trees. It takes once or twice to get the hang of it, but then it is pretty simple, even for a cajun.
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Not a simple question. The actual dish set up at a campsite varies from fairly easy to not so easy depending on your company. I have a simple Directv package so when I aim my dish I only have to worry about azimuth (compass direction) and elevation. From walking around many a campground it seems the DISH Network folks also have to dial in a degree of rotation so I am guessing it is a mite more troublesome.

There are several gadgets to help. Winegard (among others) sells a little black box that is wired inline between the receiver and the antenna that beeps more urgently as you close in on the satellite. There is also a rather pricey and seemingly complex device that purported makes aiming very easy.

As for antennas and mounts -- a quick stop by any satellite retailer will probably net you an antenna, maybe even cheaply if all you need is a single horn basic unit. Lots of folks make their own mounts out of PVC ppe. I bought the basic Winegard tripod (I already had an antenna).

Whatever you buy -- set it up at home so you can use your household antennas orientation to get you in the ballpark.

After a while, it's all pretty easy....
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Installing your satellite dish and receiver - DIY INSTALLATION SUPPORT. And, Satellite Dish Pointer / Alignment Calculator with Google Maps.

It just takes a little practice. Good meter helps if finding more than one bird.
I find five of them in minutes now.
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Standard def is easy. Like anything, It takes some practice. High def is a little harder. For standard it is just one satellite you are try to capture. for high def it can be up to five.

A tripod and small dish will work for std def. make sure you can stake it or teather it in case the winds come up. I uilt my own dish base for my high def dish.
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i have a dumb question, because i also don't know a thing about sat's.

can you get the internet w/ an up and down link, as well as tv?

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What is that stuff about plugging in the zip code depending upon where you perch your vehicle? So aside from correctly positioning the dish outside, what is necessary to do inside?
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Yes you can get satellite internet. Satellite Internet - Hughesnet - Hughes net - Satellite-Internet.cc.
Requires a separate dish from TV.
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I just went through the setup for the first time and found it to be pretty simple, if a little more time consuming than I thought would be necessary. We are getting ready for a 6 month trip and I decided to try it out at home before we begin the trip.

Basically, get a dish and a receiver. Follow the setup directions (especially the part that says be sure that your dish is on a vertical mast). If the dish is not plumb, the setup is pretty worthless. A level and a compass is all that is necessary, although a meter (available at radio Shack) is helpful.

Go for it. I am watching the Discovery Channel tonight and am already spoiled with my dish setup in the AS.
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What is that stuff about plugging in the zip code depending upon where you perch your vehicle? So aside from correctly positioning the dish outside, what is necessary to do inside?
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The zip code gives the reciever the information needed to tell you where to point the dish. Running satellite setup should take it through al the necessary steps. It is not that hard...
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A level and a compass is all that is necessary, although a meter (available at radio Shack) is helpful.
I found the radio shack meters pretty useless. I own a acutracc 22 that got replaced with a accutrac III pro. If the mast is vertical pointing the dish is quick.
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Has anyone used the automatic rooftop units? I am referring to the ones that look like a small bubble on the roof. Seems like such a clean system, no wires or tripods needed.
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Right now the state of the art automatic units are not the bubble ones. For full HD on DISH or DTV you need one of these: Winegard TRAV'LER Automatic Multi-Satellite TV Antennas - Camping World.

The 3 lnb for DISH. 5 lnb for DTV. Personally I would wait on any roof unit as the technology is evolving quickly.

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Has anyone used the automatic rooftop units? I am referring to the ones that look like a small bubble on the roof. Seems like such a clean system, no wires or tripods needed.
The only problem , ok two that i se with the roof top versions are you have to park in the open so the dish can get signal. I prefer to park in the shade of a tree. Flexability. Second it takes up room for solar panels!
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I have Winegard meter and found it to be of little value. I suppose it may make a nice night light. Along with a sturdy tripod, the most useful tools I have are a small digital compass and a bubble level. As Michelle said, once the mast is vertical, it only takes a few minutes to set up a standard definition dish.
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Michelle Mamzelle, I checked the acutrac III Pro and also saw the Channel Master model 10081FD at this site SATELLITE METERS, LOCATORS AND FINDERS
If you were interested only in Dish Network HD and Free2Air HD, Which one would you prefer? Comments from anyone else are also very welcome.
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Michelle Mamzelle, I checked the acutrac III Pro and also saw the Channel Master model 10081FD at this site SATELLITE METERS, LOCATORS AND FINDERS
If you were interested only in Dish Network HD and Free2Air HD, Which one would you prefer? Comments from anyone else are also very welcome.
THe accutrac III does the same things as the channel master. It has a digital bar read out and I peak three sats at the same time. I love mine. some of the pro prefer the bird dog.
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Dish network

I use Dish network, which uses Sats 110 and 119. They also use 129 for High Definition, but we don't use that option yet.
I use an Accudish base and a dual LNB dish. The base has a ball joint mounting with a level so that the post may be set properly.
Using the zip code, I can find the three settings needed for whatever location I wish.
I set up the base, slide the dish onto the base, hook up the meter, aim toward the compass setting indicated and watch the meter to find the sat.
It usually takes about five minutes, start to finish.
I like this set-up better than one mounted on the roof because, being portable, I don't get cought behind trees etc.

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Ours is similar, but with less "features". It took me about 15 minutes to find satellite 119, but I was using the "look at the other dishes and see where they are pointed" method. I now have a small compass that will help a lot next time.
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Have you looked at the new VuQube antenna...

...It's portable and really easy to set up.

You just set it on a level surface, hook up the co-ax antenna lead to your Sat TV receiver. You then use the included wireless remote control to tune into the req'd sat's. You just use the setup screen on your TV as you use the remote to move the antenna around to the correct position.

We have Dish TV, and you can put two Sat locations into the remote control when tuned so you can switch between Sat's as needed.

The VeQube only has one LNB inside, so you can only tune to one Sat at a time. For Dish, most of the programing is on th the 119 Sat, but you can switch to the 110 Sat with the push of one button, and back again when needed.

When switching between Sat's, you get the 'lost signal' message on the Dish receiver, and have to wait for about a minute to reaquire the signal on the new sat...kind of a pain, but it does work easy, and is very easy to set up, compared with the old tripod setup.
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