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Old 02-06-2019, 11:40 PM   #57
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Probably because AT&T gave Airstream a better deal. (Better kickback? Perish the thought)
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Old 02-07-2019, 04:22 PM   #58
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I was quite surprised at how good AT&T coverage was in the Western and Pacific Northwest states.
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Old 02-07-2019, 04:27 PM   #59
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I've only hit a few spots where AT&T has no service, usually out in the wilds of Texas Hill Country or the like, or really deep mountain valleys in the South or Northwest.
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:26 AM   #60
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I was quite surprised at how good AT&T coverage was in the Western and Pacific Northwest states.
In this vein: Anyone know how good it may be in Vermont, NH, Maine areas?

That is where we will most likely spend most of our time.

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Old 02-19-2019, 12:10 PM   #61
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Could someone please post dealer charge?

If you have had this system installed, could you please post what you were charged by your dealer for parts and labor? If you don't want to post here, a PM would be appreciated.

I am being quoted $1,999 from Airstream of Tampa which seems nuts. That is a $1,000 charge for 3-4 hours of labor to install. Holy moly!

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Old 02-19-2019, 01:20 PM   #62
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If you have had this system installed, could you please post what you were charged by your dealer for parts and labor? If you don't want to post here, a PM would be appreciated.

I am being quoted $1,999 from Airstream of Tampa which seems nuts. That is a $1,000 charge for 3-4 hours of labor to install. Holy moly!

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We are having it installed in our new '19 serenity when they receive it, around $2K is what I was also quoted.
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Old 02-19-2019, 02:25 PM   #63
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In this vein: Anyone know how good it may be in Vermont, NH, Maine areas?
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Just as good as your cell phone reception is, in those portions of New England IMO.

Have you journeyed north from Rhode Island and used your cell phone? [without the trailer] We have traveled extensively in the NE, and our AT&T cell service has been just fine. Verizon too I guess.

Earlier comments about coverage were more focused on rural areas out west I think.

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ATT: https://www.att.com/maps/wireless-coverage.html
Verizon: https://www.verizonwireless.com/feat...map=4glte#maps
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Old 02-19-2019, 05:01 PM   #64
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Just as good as your cell phone reception is, in those portions of New England IMO.

Have you journeyed north from Rhode Island and used your cell phone? [without the trailer] We have traveled extensively in the NE, and our AT&T cell service has been just fine. Verizon too I guess.

Earlier comments about coverage were more focused on rural areas out west I think.

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Been with Sprint for more than 23 years, traveled all over the world with it......sometimes a PITA. But in NE, going north beyond Kennebunk port, we end up roaming....I hear AT&T doesn't have that issue and with the low cost and data rates for a year, it makes sense to install and convert from Sprint. I'm not a huge data user, so almost any service with 4GB per month will do.....but the all year cost unlimited will be more than fine and a good rate IMO.

Seems like it will be useful and good foe east coast traveling. Our goal is to get to Alaska with the Yukon and serenity...
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:18 PM   #65
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I was quoted $1600 total for the dealer install. They checked to see if it could be a factory install on an International, but it has to be a dealer install.

I like the idea of having enough bandwidth to work while traveling.

Does anyone know if or how this works while traveling in Canada?
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:23 PM   #66
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Does anyone know if or how this works while traveling in Canada?
The AT&T coverage map linked in Post #63 shows Canada in orange as being "Off-Net coverage." Suggest calling your AT&T cell phone customer service number for details. Please let us know what they say.

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Old 02-19-2019, 10:59 PM   #67
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New “Airstream Connected” LTE-WiFi Dealer Installed

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Uncapped data - meh. Get that all day long on any major carrier with mobile handset hotspot service.

Un-throttled speeds - now we’re talking.

1 grand for equipment. Booo! All I want is the SIM card chipset and LTE radio so I can associate with my VIN, qualify for AT&T’s in automotive vehicle-hot-spot-airstream-special-service and integrate with my existing in-trailer network...


Where do you see un-throttled in the fine print? Every carrier maintains a clause to throttle when they deem fit. Without exception, for technical reasons I’d rather not go into details on.

Read https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwidth_throttling, specifically the United States section and the last sentence.
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:36 AM   #68
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New “Airstream Connected” LTE-WiFi Dealer Installed

Based on my review of the publicly available airstream-plan-specific terms and conditions, att has stayed silent on firm / mandatory data-cap-based throttling trigger for this plan. These restrictions are clearly outlined for post paid hotspot plans, and mandatory hotspot (mobile handset or hotspot hardware) bandwidth throttling is typically triggered at either 10GB/15GB data usage (for hotspot plans) and 22GB for in-car specific automotive plans such as GM onstsar (I’ve had both types)

Based on others early usage observations (some in this thread above) it appears that there indeed is no standard / firm imposed cap on bandwidth that is applied to all users once they hit a data usage threshold. Again att have stayed silent on this, which could be viewed as a positive or negative thing. My interpretation is that this is positive.

Now, congestion-based throttling may occur of course, but att even stay silent on this item in their main ts&cs with regards to not providing a firm data usage cap at which point congestion-based throttling could begin to occur per network conditions. This trigger is typically 22GB on post paid mobile handset, non-hotspot plans.

Details can be found in the fine print here:

https://www.att.com/plans/connected-car/airstream.html

And here:

https://about.att.com/sites/broadband/network

Att could definitely change plan terms and conditions in the future, but at a minimum they would normally / likely / hopefully operate on current ts&cs for at least the first year due to this being a prepaid plan with an up-front commitment by the customer for 12 months of service.

PS - still working to get my hands on the airstream-issued serial-number locked hardware for self-install.
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The fine print. Network management is referenced at att.com/broadbandinfo. Also doesn't work in Canada and limited roaming.


AT&T Connected Car Airstream Annual Unlimited Plan (Prepaid). U.S. customers only. Prepaid session-based data plans provide you with access to AT&T wireless data services for your Airstream, including but not limited to features that may be used with wireless data services, content and applications. Eligible vehicle, data plan and compatible SIM card required.

Duration: Annual Unlimited Plan is 365 days. May cancel at any time, but pro-rata refund of payment is not available (subject to applicable law).

Data plan not transferable if vehicle is sold. Pricing: $360, plus taxes.

Devices: Sold separately.

Data: For use in the U.S. only.

Stream Saver feature not available for this Plan.

Hotspot: Connects a limited number of Wi-Fi capable devices per Airstream hotspot, as specified by the vehicle maker. Devices connected to hotspot use data from your Airstream plan. Performance varies based on number of devices connected and other factors.

Roaming: You get an off-net (roaming) usage allowance for each svc. If you exceed the allowance, your svc(s) may be restricted or terminated. International and domestic off-net data may be at 2G speeds. Other restr’s apply & may result in svc termination. AT&T svc is subject to AT&T network management policies, see att.com/broadbandinfo for details.

Stream Saver feature not available for this Plan. General Wireless Service Terms: Subject to AT&T Session Based

Wireless Data Services Agreement available at https://www.att.com/legal/terms.sess...ment.list.html Pricing, offer & terms subject to change & may be modified or terminated at any time without notice. Coverage & service not available everywhere.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:09 AM   #70
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. . . Data: For use in the U.S. only.
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Thanks for all the details everyone.

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