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Old 03-21-2019, 12:48 AM   #127
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FYI the older thread is active again with recent updates:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f483...ms-187354.html

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Old 03-22-2019, 02:23 PM   #128
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What Data can Airstream Collect on the User

With the second SIM that provides remote control of so many functions within the trailer,
does this also mean that Airstream has the ability to collect data on the user, such as GPS locations?
Does Airstream have the right to sell that data?
I am certain someone has the fine print clause.
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Old 04-01-2019, 05:19 PM   #129
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It would appear that the second sim is only for when you don't activate the LTE connection.

The manual states that Airstream (and whoever they've partnered with - czone, AT&T and czone's integrator) can track you. The manual also says you can have that turned off, but you will lose some functionality. I assume that means the GPS tracking will no longer work and if you turn off the integrator's access, your remote control/monitor ability will no longer work.
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Old 04-01-2019, 06:06 PM   #130
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It would appear that the second sim is only for when you don't activate the LTE connection.

The manual states that Airstream (and whoever they've partnered with - czone, AT&T and czone's integrator) can track you. The manual also says you can have that turned off, but you will lose some functionality. I assume that means the GPS tracking will no longer work and if you turn off the integrator's access, your remote control/monitor ability will no longer work.
This is correct. They call the somewhat limited second SIM a white card. It will still allow you to use the czone connect. You just won't have enough data for any WiFi.
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Old 04-01-2019, 06:51 PM   #131
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I’ve read this entire thread. I’ve understood perhaps 30% of it

It appears the bottom line if you’re interested in this package is to have the factory disable “campground” (WiFi over WAN). Other than that good to go? Have to admit - the 9 page PDF is I’m sure expertly documented - but the idea of paying $1500-2000 on the installed system and then doing a single thing to it is offputting to say the least....

Have I understood that correctly? It would be a miracle if I did
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Old 04-01-2019, 09:15 PM   #132
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You understand it correctly, but you need to add a wireless dual band router to get double the speed. inexpensive and easy to do!
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Old 04-02-2019, 04:17 AM   #133
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Thanks. I’ll reread this thread a few times before deciding. Thanks for pioneering the experience turk123!
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Old 04-02-2019, 06:25 AM   #134
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I’ve read this entire thread. I’ve understood perhaps 30% of it

It appears the bottom line if you’re interested in this package is to have the factory disable “campground” (WiFi over WAN). Other than that good to go? Have to admit - the 9 page PDF is I’m sure expertly documented - but the idea of paying $1500-2000 on the installed system and then doing a single thing to it is offputting to say the least....

Have I understood that correctly? It would be a miracle if I did


Ditto to confusion and cost. Glad you got the confirmation just now. TBD IMO.

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Old 04-02-2019, 07:47 AM   #135
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The main reason I went with Airstream Connected is to get access to the data plan and because I am to big a chicken to drill aluminum needed for the antenna. As turk123 mentioned previously, adding the router is pretty simple.
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Old 04-02-2019, 10:52 AM   #136
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It would appear that the second sim is only for when you don't activate the LTE connection.

The manual states that Airstream (and whoever they've partnered with - czone, AT&T and czone's integrator) can track you. The manual also says you can have that turned off, but you will lose some functionality. I assume that means the GPS tracking will no longer work and if you turn off the integrator's access, your remote control/monitor ability will no longer work.

So, if some lowlife steals my trailer and this system is operating, they could probably tell me where my stolen trailer is? Cool!
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Old 04-03-2019, 01:53 PM   #137
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Buyers remorse?

Yesterday I was lucky(or unlucky) to finally get back my 2015 Flying Cloud 30ft with Airstream Connected installed. We'd been really excited about this fully unlimited internet option since Airstream announced it months ago. I called dealers all over the west and finally found one in southern California.

I took it for a test drive last night. The setup was easy through the Airstream connected app. I quickly and excitedly did a speed test and got a whooping(sarcasm) 6 MBPS down and .7 up. I did a speed test on my AT&T iPhone and got over 60 MBPS down and 50 up. How is this possible? They are most likely using the same towers...how could the speeds be so different?

I've scoured this forum and see the suggestion on adding a 5ghz wireless router. But no way that going to give me that much of a speed boost right? I feel like I've made a terrible $2000 mistake. I'm a traveling filmmaker and need a consistent high speed connection in order to survive out here.

I called Airstream this morning and was told to try the additional router idea but otherwise they were very little help. Any further suggestions would be much appreciated. Otherwise I'm going back to the dealer and trying something else.
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Old 04-03-2019, 01:56 PM   #138
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I think this Airstream page is new?

https://www.airstream.com/connected/

Does the unlimited plan for $360 per year apply only for data that comes through the Airstream router/system, or do we get a new data plan from AT&T which applies to all devices, no matter where located?

In other words, if we get back from a trip, and the trailer is parked someplace, do our AT&T cell phones still benefit from the umbrella of this plan, even if they are using local cell towers independent of the Airstream router?

At the bottom of the page linked above, the fine print says:

"Roaming: You get an off-net (roaming) usage allowance for each service. If you exceed the allowance, your service(s) may be restricted or terminated. International and domestic off-net data may be at 2G speeds."

So . . . it appears that the "unlimited" is only for data use tethered to the AS Connected router, right?

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Old 04-03-2019, 02:21 PM   #139
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I think this Airstream page is new?

https://www.airstream.com/connected/

Does the unlimited plan for $360 per year apply only for data that comes through the Airstream router/system, or do we get a new data plan from AT&T which applies to all devices, no matter where located?

In other words, if we get back from a trip, and the trailer is parked someplace, do our AT&T cell phones still benefit from the umbrella of this plan, even if they are using local cell towers independent of the Airstream router?

At the bottom of the page linked above, the fine print says:

"Roaming: You get an off-net (roaming) usage allowance for each service. If you exceed the allowance, your service(s) may be restricted or terminated. International and domestic off-net data may be at 2G speeds."

So . . . it appears that the "unlimited" is only for data use tethered to the AS Connected router, right?

Thanks,

Peter
Thats correct Peter. The Unlimited $360 plan ONLY works with the Airstream Connected system. In fact, I'm already an AT&T customer and couldn't figure out how to add it to my existing account so had to setup a new account. Kinda silly if you ask me.
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Old 04-03-2019, 02:26 PM   #140
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Yesterday I was lucky(or unlucky) to finally get back my 2015 Flying Cloud 30ft with Airstream Connected installed. We'd been really excited about this fully unlimited internet option since Airstream announced it months ago. I called dealers all over the west and finally found one in southern California.

I took it for a test drive last night. The setup was easy through the Airstream connected app. I quickly and excitedly did a speed test and got a whooping(sarcasm) 6 MBPS down and .7 up. I did a speed test on my AT&T iPhone and got over 60 MBPS down and 50 up. How is this possible? They are most likely using the same towers...how could the speeds be so different?

I've scoured this forum and see the suggestion on adding a 5ghz wireless router. But no way that going to give me that much of a speed boost right? I feel like I've made a terrible $2000 mistake. I'm a traveling filmmaker and need a consistent high speed connection in order to survive out here.

I called Airstream this morning and was told to try the additional router idea but otherwise they were very little help. Any further suggestions would be much appreciated. Otherwise I'm going back to the dealer and trying something else.

PM me with your phone number and I will walk you through how to fix it.

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