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Old 07-31-2018, 05:33 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by uncle_bob View Post

Yet another layer to the onion:

Sitting here with the dogs, watching the world go by at the campground. Not much happening. Up pulls a truck with a Death Star logo on it. Ranger truck pulls by and they head over to one of the campsite "WiFi" setups. AT&T guy hops out and pokes at this and that.

Now I'm wondering if the campsite WiFi is just that, or if it's also a picocell array .... I suppose I *could* have walked all the way over there and asked .... way to much like work .... ... also the risk of "yup, and this little gizmo here keeps failing ... any idea who designed that? .... " ( = all of a sudden *very* much like work)

And yet you bother us with this.

Yanking your chain Bob, have fun watching. I've seen those same trucks visit homes that had only DirectTV or who knows what else... nothing wireline. I figured don't ask, don't tell.

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Old 08-01-2018, 09:29 AM   #30
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Internet aside, you mentioned that you'd be living in the 19' full-time. Airstream has long advised against this because humans exhale a lot of water vapor and moisture can accumulate in the insulation (which could lead to mold). There may well be a ventilation hack to get around this limitation -- an important thing to investigate along with connectivity issues.

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Old 08-01-2018, 10:03 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by daleyocum View Post
The Mobile Internet Resource Center should be your go-to resource.

SO much info there from people who make a living on the road.
Totally agree.....super resource and lucky to have them.

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Old 08-01-2018, 10:43 AM   #32
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Full timing with Internet

Welcome to the fold! We have been full-timing with our 27' Flying Cloud for over five years now, and thought Id throw a few thoughts out.

The concerns about data usage and throttling have been covered a good bit, but a lot depends on what your full-timing will look like. Are you going to be on the road a lot? Stationary? In a park, your own land, on the road?

We were on the road in some remote places, and found that having an external antenna for cellular data was very, very helpful. It turned one bar into three bars, and three bars into five many times. It wont make a signal magically appear but it will make one stronger without requiring you to use your laptop on the roof in the rain! Make sure the antenna you get will support the frequencies your provider(s) use.

We also used an external wi-fi antenna/bridge. This allowed us to connect to other wi-fi setups, although lag and bandwidth are a real gamble on this front, it was helpful when the parks put us away from the office / wireless access points.

Also, I would recommend going with a good (paid) VPN for data security (PIA and Nord are good choices). We found ourselves visiting hotspots at coffee shops, restaurants and Home Depots across the country, and not worrying about open wi-fi at those places was worth the money, especially since as a full-timer you are more likely to be banking, etc, online.

As we had multiple devices I had a firewall set up separate from wireless, that included ad-blocking as a way to reduce the amount of data consumed. Doing software updates at the coffee shop became standard practice. I would strongly recommend looking at sites that teach about reducing data consumption, turn off automatic updates, etc to prevent unseen usage.

Finally, depending on the work your macbook is doing you may need to be concerned about power usage. If you are plugged in all the time, look in to good power protection (lots of info about that here) for your airstream. If you plan on using battery power you should investigate a pure sine wave inverter, upgraded batteries and solar.

Have fun!!

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Old 08-01-2018, 11:50 AM   #33
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... umm .... errrr ..... Modern Mac laptops charge via the USB-C port on the side. Anything that will give you 5V USB power will charge them at some level. Indeed to get the full 80W that the Apple charger provides, you will need that charger. Depending on usage, a very standard 12V powered USB-3 charger may be a very adequate source of power. We both keep ours topped up that way. If you do video editing 14 hours a day .... maybe not so much ....

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Old 08-01-2018, 03:24 PM   #34
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Multiple SIMs & High Performance Router

For our trailer, we have the Sierra Wireless MP70 mobile router. It is professional-grade mobile router, designed for first responders, fleet operations, and isolated worksites. The reception performance is excellent, and the WiFi speed is outstanding. It also has features such as GPS vehicle tracking, remote administration, and trailer control and telemetry . We are installing an low profile external antenna on the roof to further improve reception when we are really remote.

The router has two SIM card slots, and the router supports all carriers. Switching between installed SIMs is easy via the web interface. Physically changing SIMs is simple too. The router notifies us when we approach the 15GB/mon limit for each SIM.

For our service, we have THE NEW VERIZON PLAN UNLIMITED, which is no longer available for new accounts. Many of the forum readers may also have this plan. It is similar to the beyondUnlimited today, but the current beyondUnlimited plan costs more.

We average 80-120GB/mon.

We have 9 SIM cards (lines), 4 for family iPhones and 5 for the MP70. Cost is $110/month for the base 4 iPhone family account, and $20/line for data - total monthly bill is $305.68. We get a 5% auto pay discount and 10% veteran's discount, but it only applies to the $110 base account.

The iPhones have 22GB data/mon. We get 15GB/mon on the 5 SIMs for the MP70, and the cost is $20/SIM/mon. At $305.68/mon for the complete plan, 163GB/mon, the total data cost is $1.88/GB. We can add additional SIMs at $1.33/GB for the MP70.

This is the cheapest overall data rate we have found. If you bought Verizon's data only plan today, 100 GB is $710/mon.

We we are not traveling, we take the MP70 out of the trailer, and it is our home Internet service. We live in a rural area, and satellite would be our only option.


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