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Old 05-17-2007, 07:12 PM   #29
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I just got the dish antenna there, not the receiver. The ATSC tuner is for the new digital and HD off air broadcasts that most TV stations are broadcasting now. Our local UHF channel 20 is broadcast in NTSC analog format, but they also broadcast the ATSC digital signal on UHF channel 16. Most if not all TV stations are doing this, because the analog channels will go away in 2009.

You need a standard TV antenna to hook up to the antenna input of the ATSC tuner. You could hook up the Wineguard "Batwing" antenna up to this port.
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I have not really even taken the time to figure mine out yet.I have just been very busy with work lately.I could not figure out how to set it up.I will need someone in the future to show me how to do this.
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:14 PM   #31
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One possible source for a second dish is from a direct TV or dish network installer. Many of those installers are independent contractors paid on a per system to install. I knew of one in my town who was working for Dish Network and was replacing competitors systems. Apparently he didn't have to return the dishes etc. that he romoved when he installed the replacement system. Consequently he had a back yard full of dishes. Someone who sells new systems or TV sets might know who the independent contractors are. Just a thought. Or the yellow pages might give a hint. For what it's worth.
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Old 05-19-2007, 05:31 PM   #32
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Confused?

First, I would like to say that this thread is the best I have read as far as explaining Direct TV. I hope that it is ok to ask this in Devoman's thread.

However, I am still confused.

First, Minnie's Mate, what is a LBN? Did your disaster readiness kit come with a receiver? If not, what did yo buy?

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Old 05-19-2007, 06:28 PM   #33
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the people at Direct TV can talk you thru how to set up the satellite. We have it at home and got a winegard at CW to use with the MoHo. I first tried setting it up in the backyard. You do NOT need a satellite finder. Hook up everything and in the menu you will get to a point where you set up to find the satellite.....it beeps and shows you when you have the best signal. To do with when camping have one person outside with a walkie talkie and the satellite dish and another monitoring the TV and and the satellite signal. You can input zip code or lat long from a garmin, etc and it gets you very close to where you need to be, then its just fine tuning and securing the dish so you don't trip over it, or wind the dogs leashes around it We like to have it for once in a while sporting events
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First, I would like to say that this thread is the best I have read as far as explaining Direct TV. I hope that it is ok to ask this in Devoman's thread.

However, I am still confused.

First, Minnie's Mate, what is a LBN? Did your disaster readiness kit come with a receiver? If not, what did yo buy?

Thanks,
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Pat,
The kit that I got from Directv does not come with a receiver. It is for current Directv customers. You have to take one of your receivers from home. To me this is no biggie. We actually have an extra receiver left over from when we got our DVR (digital video recorder commonly referred to by the popular brand name "TiVo") but we would have to pay a monthly subscription fee ($5) to keep it activated if we wanted it exclusively for the Airstream.

What we did get was the tripod, dish, proper cable, and LNB. The LNB is the little knob looking thing that the dish reflects or focuses the signal on. It is the thingie attached to the arm held out in front of the dish.

The dish assembly requires only five screws total to put together (four for the dish and one for the LNB). The tripod requires the center mast to be inserted into the tripod and the set screws to be tightened. Very easy set up. It even comes with the correct wrench and phillip's head screw driver you will need to put it together and aim the dish. You don't need to reassemble the dish every time you set up, just remove it from the mast, remove the mast from the tripod, and fold the tripod. Of course there is the aiming and securing the tripod so it doesn't tip over, etc. etc. etc. But assembly and use is pretty basic. BTW, the tripod makes the dish stand pretty tall (about 4' tall-good? or bad?)

While this dish is intended to serve as a temporary installation while you wait for the dish installer to make your permanent installation, or in case a storm damages your permanent installation, or if you have to evacuate during a hurricane, etc., the installation DVD that comes with the kit clearly states that you can take it camping. So Directv doesn't mind if you use it for that purpose.

We will be putting it to the test this weekend while we camp on St. George Island. I have been told that local channels are virtually impossible to get via antenna and cable isn't available in the camp ground (State Park). I'll try to remember to take a photo this weekend of the dish set up and in use.
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Receiver?

What come first: dish or receiver? And, what receiver? From other posts, I gather there are different receivers. Some full feature and others not.

I am ready to buy: dish, receiver, RG6 cable (that is the right one, isn't it?)
Can I just go to Circuit City and buy, or how should I do it?

Sorry to be so dense about this. But, I do appreciate your patience.

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The #6 post on this thread may show you how to set things up.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f450...dem-32516.html

One thing with satallite TV is make sure you are carring at least 50ft. of cable to get around those trees depending on where you park.
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:49 AM   #37
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We have been hauling ours around for years and have a few tips. As mentioned above, there are tons of abandoned dished if you look, ask, snoop...
I made a mount from an old 1' piece of chain link fence pipe. It slips into the clamp on the back of the dish. It's possible to carve a wooden dowel and hammer it into the other end of the pipe, then screw a wooden foot as a platform to stabilize everything. Make the wood a 1' x 1' x 1' triangle shape with a small piece of 1x2 on each corner (a three legged stool might look funny but it won't wobble). Mount the dish towards on of the feet pointing to the other side so the mass of the dish is sorta centered on the platform. I cut the dish arm off about 3" in front of the dish and welded a hinge to the upper surface, gravity keeps it in position during use and it folds for storage. Ya' gotta be picky to keep everything aligned when you weld it.

Our RV's/TT's have never been pre-wire for cable or sat so we run the cable through a window or behind the fridge or through a door - anyway to get to the receiver (that we brought from the house)

Aligning the dish. Hook up all of the cables before you plug in the reciever to 110v. Otherwise it will find the sat, show great signal strength but has gotten confused and won't show any picture. There are more than 1 sat's up there and it is possible to get aligned on the wrong one - no picture.
Bring a compass, know the zip code or lat/lon of where you are camping and if you have a few extra coins, spring for the signal meter. That way the spouse firing up dinner won't have to be hollering 'move a little more!' to the one twisting the dish.
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What come first: dish or receiver? And, what receiver? From other posts, I gather there are different receivers. Some full feature and others not.

I am ready to buy: dish, receiver, RG6 cable (that is the right one, isn't it?)
Can I just go to Circuit City and buy, or how should I do it?

Sorry to be so dense about this. But, I do appreciate your patience.

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Pat, the best thing to do is to go to the web site for the service provider of your choice, either Directv or Dish Network and decide which service you would prefer. Directv tends to lean more toward sports programming while Dish Network has tended to lean more toward movie programming. I have had Directv for about 8-9 years so I really don't know how they differ any more. Get the toll free number for the service you prefer from their website and call them to see if they are offering any packages in your area. Generally speaking, Directv has offered free home installation of the complete system for up to four receivers (you need a separate receiver for each TV you want to watch a different TV program on, i.e. one for the master bedroom, one for the living room, etc., if you want to watch different TV programs on each of them at the same time) but they will require you to sign a 2 year service agreement. They will also offer three months of all of the HBO/Show Time type channels to try and get you hooked on those. Directv sometimes will drop ship the receivers to your house. You might get them to also ship the "disaster readiness kit" to your house at the same time under the guise that you will hook it up yourself while you wait for the professional installer to contact you and set up the permanent installation on your home.

IIRC, when I looked at their web site trying to find the "temporary installation kit", they will offer you a choice of free DVR or HDTV receiver with two year agreement. That one will have to be your decision. As of 12/31/07 all channels will have to be broadcast in high def so you will need a high def receiver eventually, but we really love our DVR. If you don't have a high def TV, you have to have a separate converter box to convert the high def image to the lower resolution analog type signal in the current non-high def TV's. Sorry, I can't advise you on which way to go there. Ask the customer service rep for assistance on this question and they may be able to help or they may not. Generally, you will get a knowledgeable cust. rep about 50% of the time, but they will at least be located in this country and not an offshore country where it is the middle of the night when it's the middle of the day here. I wouldn't go to Circuit City or other big box retailers for the receivers simply because you will have to buy the equipment or have a hassle arranging for the free installation and free equipment. I just think it is easier to deal with the service provider directly.

If you tell the cust. rep at Directv or Dish Network you are looking for a system for your RV they will refer you to a third party retailer like Wineguard. Their system might be more compact than the "disaster readiness kit" but it will probably be more expensive. For example, the least expensive unit Camping World has on-line is $170 and doesn't come with a receiver, that's another $99.

I know this is a lot to read and a lot to digest. You might want to call one of the satellite service providers and ask for more information. If you get a good cust. rep they can give you much better explanations than I have.
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Hi Devoman

Don't buy a receaver for when you are traveling. If you have Directv at home just take one of the receavers from home when you travel. You are paying for it use it, it's not doing anyhting while your on the road. My trailer set up cost nothing other than the tripod, time and cables. If you do want to buy a receaver try and get an older Hughes model GAEBOA on E Bay as the setup program is much more user friendly. The newer receavers are designed to be set up once by the installer and forgotten.

I would not consider a fixed dish on the trailer because it limits where you can park. There is no need for a meter as one is in the set up program from Directv. You will need a compass.

If you tell Directv you are using it in a trailer they will try and sell you Network availability from New York or Calif. at an additional. You can get 95% of the Networks off you antenna unless you are realy out in the woods.

One limitation I have found is when in Canada I have to use a city south of my location in the US and aim off if it. The Canadains when they come down here get a chart to aim with for all our major cities.
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Directv coming soon!!

Thanks for all the replies and for all the time it took to write!

Finally figured it out, with lots of help, enough to talk to Directv. The salesperson I talked to was very efficient and explained everything.

I have just ordered Directv directly from them. An installer will bring the equipment Saturday afternoon.

I am having it installed in the tt. That is probably a mistake-I think I should have it installed in the house and just move it to the tt. May call and change that.

Anyway, thanks again. Another decision made.

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I just bought a dish off ebay, took a receiver out of the spare bedroom at home, hooked the cables up like at home and woohoo, TV on the road. Had to get a satellite man out to find the satellite for me at the lake, but that was no trouble and little expense. Don't guess this would work if you were on the road all the time unless you had a way to locate the satellite each night, but if the Argosy is parked, it works great and costs almost nothing.
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Armed with the local zip code and a compass it takes a matter of minutes to aim a Directv dish while on the road. After you have done it a few times you will just look at the guy parked next to you and aim off his dish.

Dish is a bit harder because they have a third axis in the aiming process.
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