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05-08-2019, 12:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Providence
, Senior Electrical Engineer
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,144
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Almost ashamed to ask > Antenna?
I've been so focused on getting my cable/matrix and AS connect running that I realized that there is an additional antenna on the roof. I saw it during the build on the factory tour and thought.......cool!
My first thoughts are that it goes to the white panel with the booster switch....but my question is.......if so....why? If not, then why?
Aren't all TV signals OTA now digital and require decoding boxes to receive them?
Maybe I missed something, can someone lay it out what the purpose of the attached antenna is used for? And how to access it?
And yes, I am hanging my head in shame just for asking...
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05-08-2019, 02:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 31' Sovereign
Miami
, Florida
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Yep, solid state tv antenna. Yes, the signals have been digital for a long time and I bet the tv's in a 2019 are decidedly digital. Free HD tv!
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05-08-2019, 02:43 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Providence
, Senior Electrical Engineer
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,144
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So where does it route too....the booster panel?
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05-08-2019, 04:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,653
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kittmaster
So where does it route too....the booster panel?
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Yes.
BTW, there is no such thing as a digital antenna. It's marketing. Antennas are antennas, they are tuned to certain frequencies (or a range) and spit it out at the other end.
You have an antenna booster between the antenna and TV. If using the "cable" input on the side, turn the booster off. (I had to learn)
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05-08-2019, 07:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kittmaster
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Aren't all TV signals OTA now digital and require decoding boxes to receive them?
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It's been years since any TVs were made without digital tuners built-in. The decoding boxes were a stopgap measure for older televisions. Analog broadcasts officially ceased in 2009.
Of course, if you still have an old Cathode Ray tube (CRT) television, you could still use a decoding box, if you could find one.
Many stations use the additional channels available to put up channels with alternate content that you don't get on satellite systems. Often they show older shows available inexpensively to the broadcasters. They don't require the latest HD equipment since they were made for analog, allowing broadcasters to gather some revenue from out of date equipment (low resolution "HD" equipment). For example, MeTV here in Little Rock broadcasts on channels 18.8 and 49. At 10:00pm, Carol Burnett highlights are on for 30 minutes, followed by Perry Mason, The Twilight Zone, and two Alfred Hitchcock episodes.
Enjoy your new Airstream!
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05-08-2019, 08:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Why be ashamed to ask? No one is born knowing intrinsically all things RV antennae [emoji3]
I believe the power button just amplifies the antenna’s ability to receive OTA signals which I believe are broadcast over the old UHF band.
Use the power switch for the antenna when you want to use OTA channels. Shut the power to the antenna off when using cable because it makes the tv “snowy”.
Decoders are, I believe, built in to modern TVs.
Hope that helps. Never be ashamed to ask! [emoji3]
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05-08-2019, 10:02 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 27' Safari FB SE
NW Oregon in a nice spot
, Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Your picture is very interesting to me. I have a 2007 and bought the antenna you show mounted to replace my older batwing antenna. Except that using the antenna you show is 1 1/2 inches below the same AC unit you have so I can't mount mine to get the rotation clearance needed.
So my question is: Does Airstream have a block they are mounting under you antenna to get the AC clearance?
I know I can buy (I have it) the after market to fit on the batwing bracket..but it does not sit well in the existing cradle and all. So I am trying to make life easier/lazier for me..... Plus I like the integrated signal scan feature.
Anyone with insight into this dilemma would be a savior!!
Bob
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05-09-2019, 06:38 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Providence
, Senior Electrical Engineer
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,144
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
Why be ashamed to ask? No one is born knowing intrinsically all things RV antennae [emoji3]
I believe the power button just amplifies the antenna’s ability to receive OTA signals which I believe are broadcast over the old UHF band.
Use the power switch for the antenna when you want to use OTA channels. Shut the power to the antenna off when using cable because it makes the tv “snowy”.
Decoders are, I believe, built in to modern TVs.
Hope that helps. Never be ashamed to ask! [emoji3]
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Well I typically have a very wide understanding of most things Electrical/Electronic being in audio/automotive/semiconductor for decades.
The Airstream and the way things are "done" are a new animal (to me) and for the most part have most of it locked down (generator, inverters, etc.).
Thing is, I've had cable/satellite for all of my life and haven't done OTA stuff and quite frankly haven't even looked at it since the digital box rollout (and I still have like 3 of them in cobwebs...LOL) when analog TV went away....so when I realized the antenna.....I was like.....HMM.....
I am aware that most LCD TVs have digital signal decoding tuners, but my experience with Cox has told me and showed me even with the Airstream that cable box is required to decode even the standard channels......so that lead me to.....what is the is antenna for then??...(so a bit embarrassing for not knowing..IMO).... LOL.
I guess now it makes sense that the TV IS the OTA box, to use with the antenna, with the booster on to received the now "digital" channels that are OTA.
It's coming together......
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05-09-2019, 06:44 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
NORTH MYRTLE BEACH
, South Carolina
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Thank you. I learned from your question! No such thing as a "stupid question"! This forum is such a blessing!
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05-09-2019, 06:49 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Providence
, Senior Electrical Engineer
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,144
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mansderm161
This forum is such a blessing!
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Yes, yes it is......
Lots of smart/experienced people here.... learning something new everyday!
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05-09-2019, 08:35 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Spokane
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,858
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kittmaster
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I am aware that most LCD TVs have digital signal decoding tuners, but my experience with Cox has told me and showed me even with the Airstream that cable box is required to decode even the standard channels......
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Cox, as in Cox Cable? In my area it is now Xfinity and I have one of those love/hate relationships with them. Our home is cabled and many years ago I could turn on the tv and get the basic channels. If you wanted more you had to purchase their service box. As time moved on, Cox decided they didn't want anyone to get anything free so they made the box a requirement.
Receiving "over the air" signals has nothing to do with Cox, Xfinity or any other cable service provider. You simply run the antenna up, turn on the tv and you will get local channels. I have the old version batwing antenna hooked up to a newer Samsung tv and the image I get parked in front of my house is every bit as good as the one I get inside via the cable.
You should be good to go with your newer tv. My only question is what kind of reception you will get from that antenna that sits below your AC. I have also heard, rumors perhaps, that the new omnidirectional antennas are not as efficient as some of the older ones.
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05-09-2019, 09:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aftermath
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Receiving "over the air" signals has nothing to do with Cox, Xfinity or any other cable service provider. You simply run the antenna up, turn on the tv and you will get local channels. I have the old version batwing antenna hooked up to a newer Samsung tv and the image I get parked in front of my house is every bit as good as the one I get inside via the cable.
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In my case, the Xfinity cable box limited the output to 720p. OTA is in 1080p so my air antenna channels look better than what I was getting through cable. We added a Roku and all that comes in at 1080p as well. Much better experience - lower cost - but still stuck w/Xfinity for the Internet access.....I hate cable [emoji35]
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05-09-2019, 10:11 AM
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Stay CazuaL
2018 25' Flying Cloud
2014 19' Flying Cloud
Reseda
, California
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
Why be ashamed to ask? No one is born knowing intrinsically all things RV antennae [emoji3]
I believe the power button just amplifies the antenna’s ability to receive OTA signals which I believe are broadcast over the old UHF band.
Use the power switch for the antenna when you want to use OTA channels. Shut the power to the antenna off when using cable because it makes the tv “snowy”.
Decoders are, I believe, built in to modern TVs.
Hope that helps. Never be ashamed to ask! [emoji3]
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I concur
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05-09-2019, 10:46 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 22' Sport
connelly springs
, North Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2017
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As of January 1, 2019 tv signals are no longer scrambled by new federal law. With a good antennae you should be able to get many channels and if you add to that a streaming device like Roku. You can get just about anything you might want if you have a wi-fi signal.
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05-09-2019, 10:52 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 22' Sport
connelly springs
, North Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 35
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Many campgrounds now have wifi and if you install a wifi booster antennae (not cheap), you should easily get any wifi signal in the campground and if you stop overnight near a Walmart Cabelas or Bass Pro Shop, you should be able to pick up their signal.
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05-15-2019, 09:18 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,736
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Hi
We have stayed in *many* campgrounds that have WiFi. If we ever get to one that has good enough WiFi to actually be usable for streaming video .... I'll stop by your place with a case of beer to tell you about it . Streaming video off of the AT&T Hotspot in the trailer - that works pretty well.
Over the air TV wise, if you are out in a typical rural campground one decent station is about what you can expect. That station may have multiple feeds on it, but it's still only one station. In a location near a big city, indeed you may have a number of stations. Each one likely will have several feeds on it. The value of those additional feeds is (at least to me) very limited .... I got my fill of 1960's TV reruns *long* ago.
Bob
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05-15-2019, 09:43 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 30' Classic
Vonore
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 52
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yep
Just be sure the green light (booster) is on when trying to use OTA -- BUT green light has to be off when using cable from a CG. Either way for satellite.
My hubby watches his satellite and I watch OTA in the bedroom with TV set on source TV. Nice, but the new design of antennas that are rather "squat" don't get very far for reception. I'd love to find one that reaches into the air again like the old days.
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05-15-2019, 03:56 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 27' International
Tuttle
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 77
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Not only push the antenna booster on, but also go to the menu on your tv and select antenna and then scan for stations.
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05-18-2019, 06:47 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Providence
, Senior Electrical Engineer
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,144
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We are on OTA now at the state park we are in (no cable hookups). Managed to catch a lot of channels and is surprisingly clear and well defined HD OTA.
It is amazing how far things have come....I've always had cable and satellite for channels that are not OTA that the wife wants etc etc....so this "blast to the past" OTA changes are like kind of like doing it the old way.....except no rabbit ears to adjust....LOL!!
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05-18-2019, 08:44 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Yup. Even our old-style ‘batwing’ crank-up antenna works well....as long as I remember to scan for channels every time we move...
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Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
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