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Old 03-14-2008, 07:21 PM   #1
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Question vintage search for speaker wires

When I installed the new radio right after getting our trailer (gotta have tunes to work!) I found 4 pair of speaker wires behind the control panel, but only 3 locations that I found speaker wire, on either side of the front end cap where the built in speakers are, and a presumed set of the same color wire coming out with the range hood power.

I happened to run across a tone generator I could borrow to check wires. I connected to the wires at the range hood and quickly found the tone on one of the two speakers wires, which makes it seem that that last set must be for somewhere in the rear curb side, more than likely above the goucho. Unfortunately through the skin I can only get a solid tone for about 4-5 feet from the end of the wire before it fades out, likely to the resistance in the wire and the sheilding power of the aluminum skin.

So I really would like to find those wires, but really have no desire to take down the roof locker and drill out the rivets, pull the inner skin and repaint afterwards. I know with the AC there was a pretty exact measurement for the power lead's location, and can only presume that the trailers were pre-wired for rear speakers and somewhere there is a bulletin that gives measurements for the speaker wires?

Anyone know where I could check to see this? I was hoping to find it with the tone generator, but it would be nice to be able to cut a hole in a for sure location and find the wire there waiting for me.

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Old 03-15-2008, 07:38 PM   #2
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sorry to bump my own thread but it had disappeared into the depths of the site and nobody was able to chime in. Am I likely to find an answer or should I abandon the idea entirely and just go with the 2 front and maybe the 1 kitchen?
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Old 03-15-2008, 07:49 PM   #3
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Man, tough one. My '73 has two in the front on either side of the gaucho and two in the back over the beds (center twin beds, one on each side of the camper).

I use those tone generators regularly at work and they can be a bit fickle. Lots of stuff blocks the signal. I have no notion about any year other than my own, but it might help to post the colors of the wires and where they pull to. It might jog somebody's memory and help you find that last pair of wires.

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I have the same issue. I have 4 sets of wires on the street side and 2 speakers up front. I have part of my roof panel down and can see 2 or 3 sets of double grey wires running to back end, of which one runs to the ammeter.The others just dissapear. What does the original audio ant look like? The one I have appears to be bolted on with 3 screws and has a spring on the base. No upper support mount though.
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:27 PM   #5
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that is the same antenna I have. No upper mount either. Let me know if you find those wires, I've given up for now, the two stock front speakers fill the whole trailer with sound, just was hoping to be able to fade front to back.
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:51 PM   #6
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I have the same issue. I have 4 sets of wires on the street side and 2 speakers up front. I have part of my roof panel down and can see 2 or 3 sets of double grey wires running to back end, of which one runs to the ammeter.The others just dissapear. What does the original audio ant look like? The one I have appears to be bolted on with 3 screws and has a spring on the base. No upper support mount though.
The original antenna looked like this one in the first pic. on our tailer the day we brought it home - spring mount and pull up like an older car antenna. In the second pic you can see it on a 69 where the mount and spring are still there - the shaft is missing.




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Thanks Gary, that is just what mine looks like with out the clear silicone gooped around it.

Goransons,
I was just out investigating the speaker wires. I have 4 sets of 2 grey wires at the center of trailer. One set goes to rear for ammeter,one set to t stat above curb side twin bed, and the last 2 appear to split off and head down wall about 1/2 way down the rear roof locker above the beds. I still havn't found where the ends are located though. I'm thinking Airstream had a accessary rear speaker set up, I will try to E-Mail tech at AS and see if they can tell me anything. Wires probably enter the roof locker somehow and the speaker were mounted above beds.
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my guess was somewhere over the curbside window.. but haven't got the nerve to cut a hole.... hope you have some luck, thanks for the help
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No problem, I have PM'd Jim and Susan to see if they can post pics of their rear speakers and where the wires come through.
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I think they were wall mounted like this 68 Ambassador. If you want the measurements from the 72 manual we can look that up....

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Thanks Gary,
That area looks like where my 110 rec is located but also around where the wire starts down the roof to wall. Sure if you don't mind on the measurements,I would appreciate it. This has become a mission now. hehe

Thanks again,

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Actually - I have a somewhat selfish motive . Our 71 is an International model and should have been equipped with bunk speakers. Along with a couple other changes that were made when it was ordered apparently - no rear speakers was one. Not high on the priority list but one of those things I want to do some day. So I really want you to succeed.....

I'll get those for you tonight.
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If you have the speakers that have two wires running to each speaker, you could use wire #2 to provide input for the other speaker, and ground each speaker through the aluminum skin. Most modern aftermarket radios are already wired this way anyway.
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No problem, I have PM'd Jim and Susan to see if they can post pics of their rear speakers and where the wires come through.
I'll have to check tonight to be certain, by IIRC, the wire drops down aft of the windows. We have a center twin bed model. FWIW, each speaker has a different color wire in mine, with a white ground. Make sure you test each wire pair with a multimeter and the Univolt on. I found a couple of extra runs of 12v stuffed in the walls and down the center of the roof, apparently to be used with some accessory that the original buyer didn't purchase.

BTW, I didn't get the PM you mentioned.

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