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Old 03-08-2014, 05:42 AM   #113
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$800 for the wireless Voyager - not cheap.
Got that right; however, I purchased a Chinese system that failed on me for almost $300 (for hitch and trailer) and I lost all that money with only two uses.

I paid, I believe $565. I got a nice 3rd party monitor rather than the voyager monitor. (see pic) it works well and the speaker is loud. You can hear back there too.

Moosetags, I see wing nuts. How/where do you mount your camera? You mention the tag light- how? I ended up drilling into the sacred end cap to get it high enough to see (note pic of viewing area).
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Old 03-08-2014, 06:50 AM   #114
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Got that right; however, I purchased a Chinese system that failed on me for almost $300 (for hitch and trailer) and I lost all that money with only two uses.
Yes, that's always a potential problem. I've had some great successes with Chinese knock-offs, but I've also had the opposite experience, with stuff breaking out of the box.

I usually gamble when the price is really low, like less than $10 for my OBDII bluetooth connector, but buy from a reputable source for expensive stuff.
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:58 AM   #115
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I have some warranty work and something like dkottum's recliner upgrade scheduled and I asked them about the voyager. They have in stock and will do the install. Are you talking with Chris Burch there to set up your appointment?
Yes, I am talking with Chris Burch.
We are getting warranty work done, too.
Also, I am getting an aluminum backsplash in the bathroom.
I'm not sure I want to go $800 for the Voyager.
I think I can get a much less expensive wired system with the camera on the license plate bracket of the trailer from a car stereo store. There would be the video cable to plug in- one more step- who knows? They may have wireless systems, too.
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Got that right; however, I purchased a Chinese system that failed on me for almost $300 (for hitch and trailer) and I lost all that money with only two uses.

I paid, I believe $565. I got a nice 3rd party monitor rather than the voyager monitor. (see pic) it works well and the speaker is loud. You can hear back there too.

Moosetags, I see wing nuts. How/where do you mount your camera? You mention the tag light- how? I ended up drilling into the sacred end cap to get it high enough to see (note pic of viewing area).

My Voyager camera is permanently mounted to a piece of L brace aluminum stock. This piece of stock has two stainless machine screws mounted in it and a 3/4 inch hole drilled in the center. This hole allows the camera's power cord and plug to pass through.

There is a similar piece of aluminum L brace stock permanently mounted to the Airstream centered on the trailer just below the rear window.

The camera bracket mounts to the trailer bracket with the two machine screws with the stainless wing nuts.

The plug-in power cord for the camera is wired into Lucy's tag light. Her running lights need to be on to power the camera. This is not a problem for me as I always run with the trailer's clearance lights on.

The original owner of New Lucy came up with this mounting system, so I can't take credit for it, but it works very well. I most often remove the camera and put it inside the trailer every night. The darn thing would be so expensive to replace that I don't want to take any chances. I have sometimes even removed the camera while shopping at Wal-Mart when I didn't get a good feeling about the neighborhood.

Here are several pictures of Lucy's camera set-up.

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Old 03-08-2014, 10:06 AM   #117
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Just ordered a Rydeen wireless backup camera video system from my local car stereo store.
It retails at 199.99.
The display will show up on my Alpine 7" touch screen DVD/navigation/SirusXM/iPod control/backup camera monitor.
The camera mounts to the license plate bracket of the trailer.
There will be a toggle switch to choose truck backup camera for hitching or trailer rear view camera.
There is a wireless transmitter that goes in the trailer and a receiver that goes in the truck.
It has a range of 250'.
The man said the equipment could be in as early as Tuesday morning.
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Yes, that's always a potential problem. I've had some great successes with Chinese knock-offs, but I've also had the opposite experience, with stuff breaking out of the box.
Me too. The problem with "Chinese knock-offs" isn't that it doesn't work but what happens when it DOES quit. There are no parts or much recourse. The company replaced the DOA monitor, then the cable quit working, then one of the cameras. They replaced all-one time. That was at installation. Then when the monitor stopped working again they said I had spilled something on it- nope, not when it was attached to my windshield. When I got the voyager, the first monitor quit working right away. They sent me another without question and then explained what had failed to after they looked at it. They also sent me a new battery cover when right after install I had the trailer over at the house and when I went to link the camera to the receiver, I dropped the cover in the grass and lost it. So far they have been very helpful
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Old 03-08-2014, 02:31 PM   #119
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I to have used the GoPro for a flight camera. Really not viable for a flight first person (pilot) or backing camera. About a six second delay on the wifi to ipad/iPhone.
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The Voyager wireless works well.
I am considering the Voyager WVOS713 system and have several questions.

(1) Is the viewing angle satisfactory? our biggest concern is that the camera has a relatively narrow field of view (117-degrees diagonal) when compared to Voyager's hardwired cameras (150-degrees diagonal). That's an attribute that you need to consider: You will be trading a smaller field of view for the convenience of wireless.

(2) How did you attach the camera to the top of the trailer? Did you drill holes and use sheet metal screws?

(3) We have Bluetooth active for a cell phone link and listen to satellite radio. Will this cause any interference?

(4) Was there plenty of slack in the center light wire to pull it out and connect to the camera?
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I am considering the Voyager WVOS713 system and have several questions.

(1) Is the viewing angle satisfactory? our biggest concern is that the camera has a relatively narrow field of view (117-degrees diagonal) when compared to Voyager's hardwired cameras (150-degrees diagonal). That's an attribute that you need to consider: You will be trading a smaller field of view for the convenience of wireless.
I initially had the same concern with the angle. However, I've found that the 117 degree setup is perfect. Even at 117, there is sufficient width to see everything

(2) How did you attach the camera to the top of the trailer? Did you drill holes and use sheet metal screws?
Here's the big decision, and in fact I spent at least a couple of weeks researching the best location. If you look at where "Airstreams to Go" put their camera (at the license plate area); and then install a bike rack, the camera is just taking pictures of you bike -- not a big help. Also, placing the camera at the license plate can create concerns about someone deciding they deserve to own the camera more than you do !! Seeing that the best angle is at or near the rear clearance lights, I decided to mount it at the top near the center light. But instead of using the light's wiring (and risking the chance of breaking the lens or leaving an opening for water, I drilled through the skin and attached the camera mount with Gorilla rivets, and fed the wiring into the space above one of the LED lights in the rear overhead cabinet. And here's the part that made this a perfect solution. The camera is 12 V, so I routed the wires through the overhead to the rear of the media setup in the cabinet, removed the BluRay, stripped the wires and attached them to a 12V plug purchased on Amazon. Then I just routed that plug through the same port in the top of the BluRay box and use that to power the camera. Advantage of this process is that clearance lights don't need to be on for the camera to be used.

(3) We have Bluetooth active for a cell phone link and listen to satellite radio. Will this cause any interference?
I had this very concern, and made several calls to vendors to ensure that the WVOS713 camera would not interfer with any of my Bluetooth, WiFi, or or other wireless communication devices. In fact, when I bought my camera from RVCams.Com, I ordered the wired antenna extension, the extra cable, and really considered making a "hard-wired" installation. Before actually making any holes in the outer skin, I the system up and tested it with my Bluetooth, WiFi, and MiFi devices all running. I discovered that the advertised frequency skipping set up worked as advertised. I've been using this system for the last 9 months and think that it's one of the best enhancements that anyone can make.

(4) Was there plenty of slack in the center light wire to pull it out and connect to the camera?
Don't know about this part of the install, but if I recall BAB can provide additional info on installing it at this location. For me, I just pulled the center LED light in the rear overhead (its designed just like any can light with a spring holder) and used the access to feed the camera wiring into the space between the roof and the cabinet top.
We're actually on the road this week -- at the beach in SoCal, so I'll try to attach photos if it would help.

Good luck with whichever system you decide to purchase.

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I tried my new go pro and iPad as a backup camera. I found the signal weak but operational, sitting at the wheel and the camera on the trucks bumper shelf. There is a time lag to contend with.
I tried the camera on the bumper shelf of the AS and couldn't get a signal, too much metal to punch through.
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I will give updates and pics related to post #117 as things progress.
I think y'all all will like it.
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I tried my new go pro and iPad as a backup camera. I found the signal weak but operational, sitting at the wheel and the camera on the trucks bumper shelf. There is a time lag to contend with.
I tried the camera on the bumper shelf of the AS and couldn't get a signal, too much metal to punch through.
Thanks. I tried it this weekend at home with similar results, the delay was most pronounced when recording footage - to such a degree that it would be unusable as a backup camera.

However, when not recording the delay was something I think I could deal with, looked like less than a second. Haven't of course tried it yet with the trailer where all that metal might well cause it to be unusable.
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I will give updates and pics related to post #117 as things progress.
I think y'all all will like it.
Are you mounting this on the truck or the trailer?

My car has a backup camera built in, I am interested in being able to see what's happening behind the trailer.
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I already have it on the truck.
I am getting another mounted on the trailer.
There will be a toggle switch to select which camera to view on the screen.
There is a module available for vehicles with multiple cameras that automatically selects which camera using software.
As long as you are moving forward, you get a 360 degree view all around the car.
When you put on the left signal, you get a view left of the vehicle, vice versa with the right turn signal.
When you shift into reverse, you get a rear view.
These features are available OEM on some cars, but quickly are copied for the aftermarket.
I, too, want to see what's going on behind the trailer-
1. For backing into camp sites.
2. For knowing what's back there as I travel down the highway.
Please refer to post #117.
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