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Old 03-10-2014, 02:01 PM   #127
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Cris,

Thanks for the details on how you set up your Voyager system. I had a question about your camera mounting. First, I may be dumb,(please don't ask my wife) but what are "Gorilla Rivets".
Second, so you did drill a separate hole through the skin for the camera wire? ...and how did you make it all water tight?
Thanks for your detailed instructions.
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Old 03-10-2014, 02:40 PM   #128
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I already have it on the truck.
I am getting another mounted on the trailer.
Thanks. Looking forward to your experiences with this, so we can RAD (rip off and duplicate)
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Old 03-10-2014, 03:36 PM   #129
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Gee! Thanks!
I really think it is gonna be awesome and y'all will like it.
The one on the truck has been on there for a year.
Rydeen makes OEM style cameras for pickups (like the blue oval with a camera in it), as well as other types of mounts and monitors.
I have a local car stereo store that when I think up something cool they make it happen.
I didn't want to drill holes in my skin, or have exposed wiring, or have a visible antenna- this system will address all these issues- basically I haven't been pleased with any options I've seen, and $800 for the Voyager is just too much in my opinion.
I hope this will blow all other options away.
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Old 03-13-2014, 05:58 PM   #130
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This morning I took several pictures of my Voyager Camera installation at the request of a Forums member. I emailed them directly to him. He has suggested that some others may also be interested.

Here is the series of photos. Keep in mind that my Voyager was already on New Lucy when bought her. Lucy's original owner designed and installed this mounting system. It's pretty slick in that it allows for easy mounting and removal of the camera unit. This is a real plus from a security standpoint.

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Old 03-14-2014, 05:31 PM   #131
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Rear view camera - another approach

I found that the best advice for designing a rear view camera system came from our esteemed AS guru dznf0g who started this thread. I purchased a system from this site:
GPS Backup Camera, Wireless Backup Camera RV truck, Pan & Tilt handheld monitor, Pan & Tilt IP Network Camera, Dancing Daisy baby monitor, usb wireless video camera
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I chose to install the camera on the rear center marker light. Mounting it high gives a better look down the road and keeps the camera out of direct headlight glare. It uses the power from the light wires, so I turn the camera on by turning on the running lights. Your AS looks best cruising down the road with those lights on, anyway. I pulled off the lens and mounting base and stripped the wires.
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I used the light base as a template to make an aluminum mount for the camera bracket. I used 1/8" aluminum sheet and cut it with a jigsaw. I mounted it on the vise to shape the curve with some gentle hammer persuasion.
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Then I lined up the camera bracket and drilled mounting holes in the new base.
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I used the light's gasket under the new base to seal the connection to the trailer with some caulk. I made the connections with crimp connectors, and pushed them into the hole.
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I learned the hard way - despite dznf0g's warning - that you have to seal the power connection on the back of the camera housing with caulk. My first camera soon had condensation inside and I had to replace it. 4ucam was reasonable and offered a new camera at half price with a two year warranty.

After installation it looks pretty natural up there, I think. This shows the camera with the provided stubby antenna. I later replaced that with an extended antenna.
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I removed the old roof mount crank-up television antenna - never used it - and mounted an extended 2 meter antenna to the bracket with zip ties and attached the antenna cable to the camera. The antenna extends the range of the camera and is available at 4ucam, $25. http://www.4ucam.com/images/7109_ant.jpg
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In the TV - our Chevy Express "Silvester," I rigged up an adapter so I could mount the monitor bracket to the dashboard. I made it out of wood, painted it black and screwed it right into the dashboard. You can also see the van's antenna line connected to the back.
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The monitor can be easily removed when not in use, and the antenna line tucks out of the way. When in use the van's antenna, a duplicate to the antenna mounted on the trailer, sits on its magnetic base on the van roof, and the line runs through the side window and along the headliner seam to the dashboard. I keep the antenna secure on the roof with an adhesive cable mount stuck on the roof. The magnet works very well. The antennas make a good wireless connection. Not great, good. I have some flips and dropouts when near interference, but generally it works well. Nighttime image is very good.
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I also use a wireless magnetic mount camera with this system for hitching. It's a real bonus!
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This system costs about $320 with the hitch camera and the two extended antennas.

dznf0g's patch antennas have the advantage of internal mounting. This system is more exposed but didn't involve any interior fitting. I do recommend enhanced antennas with this system - the stubby little antennas that come with the unit just don't cut it.

I have found that the system is helpful in backing into campsites and parking spots, but the wide view is a bit distorting when judging close distances, so I find I still Get Out And Look.

So now I find it's much easier to see the cop and his pretty red light behind me.
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Old 03-16-2014, 02:51 PM   #132
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This morning I took several pictures of my Voyager Camera installation at the request of a Forums member. I emailed them directly to him. He has suggested that some others may also be interested...


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The installation of this system on the rear of a 30 ft. Classic Airstream travel trailer was relatively straight forward. The camera was mounted just below the rear window of the trailer, at a height that is about shoulder high. Power for the camera was taken from the power leads going to the tag light.
The system powered up and paired the camera to the receiver with no adjustment on my part.

I used the mounting bracket approach described by Brian (Moosetags), with no significant modifications.

The picture is clear. The camera is transmitting to the receiver over a distance of approximately 45 feet. The camera antenna looks through the rear window of the travel trailer, the front window of the travel trailer, and the rear window of the Ford F250 truck to see the antenna on the receiver.

I will do some fine tuning of the picture with respect to brightness, contrast, and color when the weather clears next week.

We leave on a 7,500 mile trip in April. I will report back on the performance of the system during this long trip.
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Old 03-16-2014, 03:22 PM   #133
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So just to be clear, you're using the single camera version, not the 3 camera version, yes? How is the view with 1 camera? Enough to see traffic behind you in conjunction with your mirrors? I'm having one installed at the Mothership next month and thinking single cam.
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Post # 56 shows the view behind from the road with my single camera. The cars coming around are well within mirror view by the time they disappear from camera view.
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Old 03-16-2014, 04:47 PM   #135
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So just to be clear, you're using the single camera version, not the 3 camera version, yes? How is the view with 1 camera? Enough to see traffic behind you in conjunction with your mirrors? I'm having one installed at the Mothership next month and thinking single cam.
Mine is a single camera version. I have now been towing with it for about 3,500 miles. I have found that the view behind the Airstream is so good that I no longer mount the tow mirrors on the Suburban or pull the tow mirrors out on the Silverado.

The only problem that I have had is in the rain. The way that the back end of the Airstream throws up water mist, it gets all over the camera lens. This renders it useless in the rain.

This being said, I really like having the rear view camera. It makes me feel that I know what is going on behind the Airstream.

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Brian, that's one of the things I like about having it up high. I'll get some individual drops on the glass, but rarely, even in driving rain, does it become obscured to the point of not being able to see pretty clearly what's back there.
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Thanks guys - that's helpful. Single cam it is!
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Just picked up our FC25 last week at Colonial. Had them install the Voyager. Outstanding way to go. Agree with the value while towing. Almost easier to check than my add on mirrors which as expected vibrate in the wind.

Found it really useful when passing to know when you have really cleared the vehicle you are passing.

Mount is under the center marker light. Tilted down so that the outside bottom edges just show the rear awning. Can't see directly to the bumper but works fine backing into a truck stop and stopping just over the curb.
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How does one keep the voyage (or any other camera that is visible to anyone) from being stolen from the back of the trailer?
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My camera is mounted high, as others have described. You're not getting up there without a ladder or something. Also, at that height it's one of the least interesting things about a, "Wow, is that an Airstream? Do they still make those?" trailer.

I need to re-aim my camera just a little bit. The dealer-install job was good, but they aimed the camera too far down to be sure I could see the bumper. I don't see cars behind the trailer until they are very close, and it's not much help backing up. With a little adjustment, it will be perfect.
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