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Old 09-01-2014, 01:29 PM   #1
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Television & stereo notes on 2015 ... frustrations

After six weeks, we have finally gotten around to using the TV in our 2015.
Noteworthy is the abandonment of the rotating unidirectional TV antenna for the "Frisbee" omni-directional antenna. That has cut our rural channel options from 13-15 viewable channels to 5! That is a comparison with the same AS orientation and from the same campsite location as we have used before - this season.

The larger TV in the dining / galley is no longer on a pivot & swing out mount; rather it is fixed to the wall ...so, much of the sound emanating from the rear of the TV is now lost bouncing back and forth between the wall and the rear of the television. The smaller TV in the front bedroom now has an AC adapter connected to its rear (???)... with the same issue with signals from the antenna booster at that location - still cuts the available channels by more than 50%.

The Clarion stereo (at least to us) is not as user friendly (if you could call it that) as the Sony it replaced. If there is a way to get TV audio (like previous iterations of the FC and EB) through the Clarion, we have yet to figure it out; choosing aux (with either one or both televisions turned on) on the Clarion does not seem to connect. Pandora still works just great on the Clarion, however.
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I'm interested in finding about getting the tv sound out of he speakers as well


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Just an FYI, the Clarion replaced the (very) short-lived Pioneer.
I will have to check a '15 tomorrow and make sure there is still a set of RCA plugs connected to the sound output on the tv. If there isn't, I don't think tv sound can be routed through the stereo.
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What model is the Clarion?
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Old 09-17-2014, 08:11 PM   #5
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I'll be picking up my '15 this weekend but I believe based on pictures it appears to be a Marine unit M502. The only way it will work is via analog audio into the 3.5mm AUX port ...like Terry said, there would have to be cables run from the TV to the head unit.

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BTW, what are the models of the TV's? Do they have Bluetooth streaming output capabilities? If so, that may be an option.
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We have 2015 23D with Clarion strep and TV sound if great with aux setting (only one TV). Volume of stereo is is in addition to TV sound, if that makes since. We turn stereo up enough to harmonize with TV speaker then use TV volume to change overall volume of system. Works great and gives home theater sound. Might want to be sure that ex


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We have 2015 23D with Clarion strep and TV sound if great with aux setting (only one TV). Volume of stereo is is in addition to TV sound, if that makes since. We turn stereo up enough to harmonize with TV speaker then use TV volume to change overall volume of system. Works great and gives home theater sound. Might want to be sure that ex


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External sound is on in TV menu. If still problems suggest contacting Airstream support.


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BTW, our 23D also has directional antenna and it works great. Camped in boondocks this past weekend and got at least a dozen stations with definite ability to tune signal by antenna direction. Interesting that you have a different antenna. What model do you have? Does the antenna raise and lower (ours does)?


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Can anyone answer the question I asked about the TV brand/models in the 2015's?...preferably in the wide bodies. Thx
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I think the 23 is traditional non-ducted air so they would not have had to change the TV antenna to the non-crank up model. It would certainly be interesting to see if the new 25's and up suffered in the electronics for the benefit of ducted air. I watch my TV more than I use the air.
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My wife and I will pick up our first Airstream this coming Saturday. It's 25FB International Serenity. Both of the tv's are Samsung HD, the stereo is a Clarion and the tv antenna is fixed. That's about all I know at this point.


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I think the 23 is traditional non-ducted air so they would not have had to change the TV antenna to the non-crank up model. It would certainly be interesting to see if the new 25's and up suffered in the electronics for the benefit of ducted air. I watch my TV more than I use the air.
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It could be that Airstream just chose a cheap omni-directional antenna. You can buy non-crankup antennas that are just as good as the old crank-up model.

There is a "bat-wing" shaped fixed antenna with a signal meter that allows you electronically steer the antenna rather than mechanically steer the antenna. That is the same type of antenna that Winnebago uses and it would work as well as the old antenna.

I get my Airstream next month and I will let you know what I find out. Although I rarely use over the air TV because there is no over the air tv where I live or where I usually camp. I have a Directv satellite system for home and RV.
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As I said above, the antenna in our 25 is fixed / non-rotatable which results in marginal signals effectively being lost as they can no longer be "focused in" by the antenna. The "Frisbee" Omni-directional antenna was likely necessitated by the ducting which now utilizes the real estate formerly occupied by the rotating antenna.

The main television (only) has fixed level audio outputs which connect to the aux inputs of the Clarion M502 via RCA plugs (which in our case - were not connected). In order to have audio from the Clarion at the front of the AS, the main TV must also be turned on. The Samsung TV audio output to the Clarion does not vary with the volume of the TV; hence, either the remote control unit for the Clarion or its main function knob must be used to vary volume level independent of the TV setting. Previous iterations of the Samsung appeared to have a "custom" pair of output cords added to the factory television. Since the main TV is now in a fixed mount, I have not yet had a chance to remove it from the wall to examine the particulars. As an interesting note, the secondary /smaller television, appears to be a 12VDC unit with a 110 converter attached to its rear side.

Since we rarely park in commercial campgrounds and prefer boondocking, over-the-air television or Blue Ray are our main sources when viewing the TV ... Pandora for audio, however. My remarks do not apply to units shorter than 25 and then only to the 2015 model. YMMV
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Blue Ray Player: Samsung BD-H5100 (note that the Play/Stop/Power button is located on the top of the player and very difficult to see / operate...at least for us YMMV) supplied with remote control for ease of use.

HDMI Splitter: Riverpark Connex 1 x 2

LED Television: Samsung Series 4000/5000 supplied with remote controls.
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