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Old 09-25-2007, 10:07 PM   #15
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Actually the high pitch whining comes out of the speakers not the subwoofer.

Maybe if we unplug the subwoofer AND the speakers we'll eliminate the problem!

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Old 09-25-2007, 10:22 PM   #16
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Save yourself the work just use ear plugs. Ours makes noise too.


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Old 09-26-2007, 10:02 PM   #17
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You might want to adjust the controls on your sub-woofer, such as the one for gain.

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Old 09-27-2007, 05:29 AM   #18
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You can unhook the sub, and leave it unhooked, and unplugged. Rich Luhr did this with their trailer, for much the same reason. The fan feeds back through all the speakers.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:41 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by campadk
Actually the high pitch whining comes out of the speakers not the subwoofer.

Maybe if we unplug the subwoofer AND the speakers we'll eliminate the problem!

You are right...the whining comes out of the speakers...most of the times the ones over the bed are the worst...however, if you unplug your sub-woofer most of the time the whining worsens on some units when the fan to the refer kicks is something in the sub-woofer itself that causes
the interference with the speakers.

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Old 10-01-2007, 02:06 PM   #20
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Question subwoofer and DVD

Originally Posted by cosmotini
Our subwoofer makes a low grumble (It sounds like a cat purr to me) only when playing a DVD.
Did you find a solution? I have the same problem while watching DVDs and only at times in the movie when the scene is relatively quiet. The system sounds great the rest of the time.

I don't want to unhook the subwoofer. I just want it to work correctly.
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:15 PM   #21
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Your request is reasonable. Doable might be different

Originally Posted by emdubyadee
... I don't want to unhook the subwoofer. I just want it to work correctly.
There are two types of electrical noise that could cause the noise addressed in this thread: radiated, and coupled.

Radiated means that the noise-producing device (usually a motor of some sort) is sending the interference out via radio waves, and the unit's circuitry, whether it be the tuner or regular speakers or subwoofer or all, is not shielded enough to keep from picking it up.

Coupled means that the noise-producing device is dumping a bunch of interference back on the power buss.

Coupled noise is a lot easier to fix than radiated noise. I have had success reducing coupled noise with the addition of additional chokes & capacitors on the power buss. Radiated noise reduction has to be designed into the unit as in-the-field-fixes involve bulky, unattractive shielding.

I suggest you chat with the local, high-powered, car stereo shop about solutions. If those boys roll their eyes & get cocky about simple solutions, then take your Airstream down there and challenge them to eliminate the noise.

Since I think your problem is probably the uncurable radiated noise, challenge them to a double or nothing price on the repair.

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Old 10-01-2007, 05:08 PM   #22
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Interesting issue here... seems I remember from my studio building days some of the same issue regarding the control room monitors. Problem was two-fold. First being using unshielded wires and circuit and the other being a poor ground. So in this case, I'd look at changing the circuit the stereo is on because it seems that it's picking up interference with whatever else is on that particular circuit and then also check how the stereo is grounded - is it a good ground separate from other grounds. Another issue here may be what other power source is close to the speaker itself. Speakers have a magnet in them and anything that generates a current beside it can create a magnetic field - especially if it is a wound coil.

With live music, the high pitched squeal is usually feedback caused from either the EQ having the high end boosted too much and/or the microphones facing the main speakers which causes a sound loop that gets increasingly amplified until you hear the high pitched squeal... since we don't have mics (unless you're a die-hard karaoke fan) on the stereo, I'd think the EQ was the problem with the squeal. But then again... Airstream makes Airstreams... not stereos...
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:07 PM   #23
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Lightbulb Subwoofer Noise

We just got back from our first trip in our new 2008 Safari SE 27FB. We have the upgraded A/V package. The subwoofer in the 27FB is located in the rear doorside corner of the trailer under the dinette and behind the drawer.

Noticed the constant rumble from the subwoofer anytime we played a DVD. Wasn't noticeable using the FM tuner and not much with CDs. Was so bad a one point, I thought someone in the campground was running a generator. Tried adjusting via the sound system itself with no luck.

With much aid from mirrors, flashlights, and physical contortion, my husband managed to climb under and turn down the knobs on the subwoofer itself until we couldn't hear the rumble. Seems to have fixed the problem.

Have no idea what the knobs are for since it was too hard to read them back in the dark corner and we didn't get a manual or installation instructions with that piece of the system.

Hope this helps.
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:24 PM   #24
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I tried to record the rumbling of our sub woofer... but unfortunately the camera audio wasn't able to record the sound due to the low frequency... oh well.

When we first discovered this problem, we also turned down the subwoofer volume knob... which helps... but it also essentially turns it off. Might as well just unhook the baby at that point since you get no 'subwoofing'. It still rumbles and burps though.

TomW... its not the type of noise you associate with nearby motors or a bad power supply. Its a unique blend of 'random burps and rumbles'. It's certainly an attention getter. Considering the number of people with the same problem, I suspect that Airstream install these multiplayers and speakers and never even turn them on to test them before leaving the factory!

I'm saving up enough dough to fly my stereo shop expert down to the Adirondacks to listen to my rumbling Airstream to find a solution. My latest solution to the problem has been to winterize and store my Bambi which has greatly reduced the rumbling
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:16 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by campadk
... TomW... its not the type of noise you associate with nearby motors or a bad power supply. Its a unique blend of 'random burps and rumbles'. It's certainly an attention getter. ...
If I was to have this problem, my next step would be to disassociate the the subwoofer's amp from the Airstream's power buss.

In other words, try hooking just the subwoofer to a separate battery and listen if the noise persists. If it does, then hook both the receiver & subwoofer to the dedicated battery.

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Old 10-29-2007, 10:20 PM   #26
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Strange noise when the CD seeks

I am also having strange noise issues from the Stereo. I have 2007 16' Bambi and whenever I put an MP3 CD or regular CD when the player seeks for a song you can here a whining through the speakers. I had the stereo replaced by the dealer with no luck. I thought it might be a grounding issue? Any ideas on what to try?
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Old 12-13-2007, 07:54 AM   #27
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2008 30' Classic Sub Woofer Fix

I was happy to find this thread mainly because I thought the factory had really messed up the wiring on our upgraded audio/video package. This is indeed what has happened.

Fasten your seat belts folks, this is going to be long. Unfortunately, words come easily to me.

The sub-woofer "rumble" that everyone describes matches our experience exactly.

We ordered the remote speakers option.

We also ordered a Sirius satellite radio. We were getting lots of hum when the TV sound was being played through the stereo; same when using the sat radio. We found that the sound for the TV and the Sirius radio would play at the same time. Very confusing. If I unplugged the power from the sat radio the hum went away. Must be an electrical problem, eh? Not! Read on.

What to do? Take it to a dealer and let them turn some 19 year old who cannot find his a-- with both hands in high noon sunlight? Not. I agonized over this for two or three nanoseconds and opened up the portion of the cabinet in the overhead where the stereo is located.

But first I got out all the docs on the radio. The Aux In doc provided the most info. It has a very nice diagram of the auxiliary unit that is used to pump four separate inputs into the stereo. It also helped understand how things were supposed to be wired. I realized the TV and sat radio were using the same Aux In channel for one of these inputs - a big aha.

Back to the opened cabinet.

To say that the wiring I found looked like a rats nest is putting it mildly. I spent a morning sorting it all out just so I could see what was what. The only labeling on any of the cables was on the cables exiting the Sony radio. The good news is that this, coupled with the Aux In wiring diagram was enough to get everything sorted. Every cable now is ID'd with labels from our label maker.

The sat radio and TV conflict was easy to resolve. They had both of them plugged into the CDC2 port selector on the Sony Aux IN unit. I moved the sat radio to the empty jacks for the CDC3 port selector and that problem was solved. Now I can watch the TV and listen to the sat radio without the TV sound in the stereo speakers. No more hum either with the sat radio plugged into the power.

Next, I found the sub woofer jack from the Sony unit to be flopping in the breeze. Huh? If this is the case, what on earth is plugged into the sub woofer?

I went on the internet to see if I could locate some info about the sub woofer. Absolutely no docs on it came with the trailer. Found absolutely nothing on the internet either. I did find others posting on forums looking for the same info.

What made this confusing is that there is a small junction box flopping about with many wires from the stereo unit connected to it. This unit is not from Sony. This box is not from the manufacturer of the sub woofer either. This small adjunct box has two interesting items marked on it. One is a jack labeled sub-woofer with a single wire that I discovered is routed to the sub woofer. This wire is the third wire in the plastic harness that also has the battery and ground wires on it at the sub woofer. This adjunct box also has EXT SPEAKERS labeled with only two wires connected to the line out jack. More on this jack later; back to the sub woofer.

I pulled the sub woofer and saw the connection for the RCA jacks and decided that this had to be the input for the sub woofer; I forget what the jacks on the sub woofer were labeled.

Back to the rats nest of wires. Ultimately I discovered that the factory had connected the sub woofer to the rear speaker output from the stereo unit. I got the wires for this moved and now found I actually had some bass sound emitting from the sub woofer. I used one of the "two into one" splitters the factory had used to connect the TV and sat radio to the same input on the Aux In unit to split the single sub woofer out put from the Sony unit into two for input to the sub woofer - all RCA jacks.

But, this is the weakest sub woofer I have ever heard. Part of the problem is that it is under the sofa at the front of the trailer and the sofa just soaks up the sound. I have both dials on the sub woofer turn up to the most advance position on the rotary switches.

I wrote email to the company that manufactured the junction box with the EXT SPEAKERS and sub woofer wire coming of it to get the definitive info as to which wires are for left/right hot/ground for the speakers. They sent me two PDF files that contain the schematics for the electrical box I have been discussing AND the Speaker Select Switch that is above the stereo AND the following:

*****************IMPORTANT INFORMATION********************

"The (2) prints in PDF format should explain the design and function of
the circuit in question. The jack in the face of the switch plate would
not make any sense as to the way it is wired unless you know the history
of the item. I'm not sure who supplied the mono speaker, but the jack is
wired correctly except no ground wire is supplied for its usage at the
time of design. This is because it is a floating ground system and
cannot be directly grounded. The jack was provided for a wireless
headphone system which derived enough of a ground through itself to
function. You could run a separate chassis ground to the jack and use it
for headphones -IF- you isolate the left + and right + by running each
through a 5uf capacitor with the (-) toward the jack and the (+) toward
the 4 pin plug, headphones would work but the speaker never will. If you
don't isolate the positives and IF you use a (-) output from the radio
for ground side, the Radio will typically overheat and destruct. You can
of course use speakers if you observe the (+) & (-) for each pair per
the diagram Ignoring the jack."

*****************IMPORTANT INFORMATION********************

Glad I did not do anything to the wiring prior to getting this info! If anyone is interested in this info PM me and I can email them the PDF files; I have received permission from the manufacturer. This also explains why my headphones would not work. Now I can fix this with a bit of electronics and a soldering iron.

I also learned that the Aux In unit that accepts all the sound input was very interesting. It now has input from the TV, the CD changer, the sat radio (all use RCA connectors) and one more input jack. The 4th jack a USB slot for a computer connection. I plugged a USB cable from my laptop into it with the stereo output set to CDC4 (prior to plugging in the cable) and my computer popped up the "Found New Hardware" dialog. I would only do this with a connection to the internet; this way the computer was able to find the appropriate drives on the internet. Walaa. I now have USB speakers. I brought up my MusicMatch and found that it now showed USB speakers in addition to the audio device built into the computer under the Play tab of the Options window. It took MM a long time to come up when this was first done. Patience. I now can play any of my 65 GB of music on my computer through the stereo system in the trailer.

Now that the rear speaker cables from the radio were available I decided to make use of them. I have a small speaker system from Cambridge Soundworks that operates on110V AC or 12V DC that I have used for 10+ years to play sound from my computer. I installed the cables that will now let me plug it into the rear speaker jacks on the stereo. This will allow us to have surround sound from DVD,s. Cool. I can also use it with the line out jack once I get it rewired, instead of the the built in speakers in the trailer by using the selector switch at the stereo area where the line out jack is to control the trailer speakers and plugging my Cambridge speakers into the line out jack.

FYI, no sound from the stereo rear speaker cables unless there is Dolby sound to be decoded for them as far as I can tell.

Now, having said all this, I continue to get the hum from the sub woofer when a DVD is in the DVD player and the player is not playing. When the DVD is removed I get no hum.

My challenge now is to determine how to route the various cables from the stereo to the areas I want them for use with the computer and the Cambridge speakers. I have not looked at everything in this sub-forum for ideas for routing the cables and am open to ideas and things people have done to solve this issue.

Hope this may be of use to others.

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Haunted Stereo System??

After reading about the various, and strange noises, emanating from our new stereo systems.....I'm beginning to think they are possessed.....must be part of the "upgrade."

The most serious problem we have experienced with our new trailer, is the high-pitched noise from the two speakers over the dinette (the speakers over the bed are fine). What is weird is that it only occurs when the water heater is far, our remedy has been to just not listen to the stereo while the heater is on! I've been dreading going into the wiring, etc. to find the source of the problem but know that I've got to do it sooner or later. Hopefully, one of our forum members, with more knowledge that me, will find a solution.


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