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Old 10-21-2015, 11:09 PM   #15
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I looked at a couple a double DIN units today at Best Buy. The issue with these units is they need to be wired to the handbrake circuit in order to get the DVD to play on the main screen. This is really not a requirement since I want the DVD to play on an external source which would be the TV or in a car a rear seat monitor.

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Every model unit out there has a bypass module of some sort available (or the brake bypass wire gets grounded depending on brand). Here is an example - Amazon.com : MicroBypass Parking Brake Override Bypass for JVC : Vehicle Audio Video Accessories And Parts : Car Electronics
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Old 10-21-2015, 11:16 PM   #16
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I've crossed the single DIN model off my list because it doesn't come with a remote. Without a remote I wouldn't be able to adjust the volume when playing back DVDs through the system. So I'm going to have to go with a Double DIN system. Right now my choice is the Pioneer AVH-X2700BS. Its a similar model to the AVH-X3700bhs model shown in the above video and has most of the same but it is a little cheaper, $224 at Amazon.

I'm not sure if the remotes that come with these units are inferred but I suspect they are. Can't find any info in the manual. If it is inferred I'll get a universal remote to run the TV, stereo and Apple TV. I've got a Harmony One at home and really enjoy not have four our five remotes hanging around.

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Hi again Kelvin - they are definitely infrared remotes. Have you checked out crutchfield.com? Browse the website and then when you have questions give their toll free number a call. Their prices are not rock bottom but their knowledge of their products are excellent. I am sure they can sort out exactly what you are looking for. I have used them many times over the years.
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:10 PM   #17
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I've checked out Crutchfield. The price on the Pioneer AVH-X2700BS is about $100 higher than buying off Amazon.

So far that Pioneer model is the best I've seen. Has the video out, and aux input for the TV audio when off the air is used. Has a remote. Double Din is going to cause me to rework the audio area of my Classic cabinet. I'm not going to worry about the parking brake bypass as I don't want to play back a DVD through the head monitor only to the external TV.

The photo below shows my current Sony single DIN and the idiotic speaker selection switch. What an eyesore.

The double DIN Pioneer will require me to mount it lower so the back of the unit will clear the back wall. It appears the panel the current radio is hosed in can be removed by unscrewing from the side panel where the 12v socket is located and from the center divider from the adjacent cabinet. I'm going to see if I can rotate the existing panel and expand the slot to fit the Pioneer. Worse case is I have to buy some wood and refinish to match.

The new radio would use the fader to move sound from the living area to the bedroom area.

I would like to shorten the width of the panel since there should be nothing but wires back there. The 12v socket will be retained but I don't need the composite ports so another 12v plate may replace it or maybe a bank of USB ports.

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yes their prices are a letdown but they are very good with their product knowledge
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:39 AM   #19
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I'm still thinking about my options.

When I look at how we currently use our audio system:
We never listen to the radio in the Sony head
We almost never use the DVD player in the Sony head
We use the amplifier in the Sony head to play back audio from the TV when watching movies on the TV. We play back movies from an iPad or laptop connected to the TV via wireless or HDMI connections.
We play back TV audio to the internal TV speakers when watching the news, etc.
We never use the bedroom speakers.

So I have a new plan
Purchase the Insignia 28" HDTV with built in DVD player.

Purchase a decent Bluetooth speaker. Place it under the TV on a shelf. The Apple TV will also be placed on the shelf.

Connect the TV's audio output to the the Aux input on the BT speaker.

Pull out the Sony head and remove the wooden face to open up the cabinet for more storage. Disconnect and remove the speaker selection switch. Wrap up all cables to get them out of the way. Rewire the 12v in the cabinet to a surface mounted USB hub in the cabinet.

The built in speakers will remain for cosmetic and possible future use.

This set up will allow us to:
Play music from our phones to the BT speaker. We can also take the BT speaker outside if we want to listen to music outside (not likely).
Play TV content audio to the BT speaker
Simplify remote use by only needing one remote to control the TV and DVD playback.
Movie audio will be directed directly forward from the TV area to the rear dinette listening area vs from each side of the listening area using the in wall speakers.

I'm now researching BT speakers.

I've seen on this forum a thumbs up for the Bose Soundlink Mini II. The Aux port is located on the side, I'd prefer it to be on the back but not a deal breaker.

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Sounds like a good plan - I take our BT speaker outside all the time to listen to music and/or sports (quietly of course). We also use the BT speaker in the bedroom at sleep time. We have the original Bose Soundlink and the aux port is in back. It sounds better then the Mini II but the rechargeable battery no longer holds a charge.

The Bose Soundlink III is available on Amazon and it has the aux in the back - http://www.amazon.com/Bose-SoundLink...se+soundlink+3
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Old 11-06-2015, 02:20 PM   #21
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Looking at BT speakers online. So far my favorite.

Riva Turbo
http://youtu.be/ufbKLypZe6g
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That is a great find! You may have just cost me some duckets LOL
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I was never able to get good reception on my BT speaker outside, and that was after I bought some little module to transmit it from the stereo. In the village where I come from, car stereos only receive BT, like from phones, not transmit.

Could be that crappy BOSS stereo I installed... I'm replacing it this week with a Jensen VX3012, hopefully that will work better on all fronts. I wound up installing a headphone jack with a weatherproof cover outside, so that I could plug my boombox into the main system with the AUX in. There's also a cable connection for hooking the TV up to, and a 110V outlet.

Having portable speakers while camping is a good thing- you can listen to music or TV with the sound source close by, so you can hear everything without having to blast the sound.
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I looked at some of the reviews for Boss and they were substandard compared to reviews of Pioneer, Kenwood, Sony etc. The biggest complaint was the clock not keeping accurate time.

BT in car stereos are meant to pair with phones to play content on the phone through the car speakers and to perform phone operations. BT speakers are like car stereos to play back music. I've ripped all my CDs to play them from my iPhone. I don't buy CDs anymore. They take up too much space and I prefer to buy my music by the song now.

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Today I ripped out the Sony radio. What a tangle of wires are behind the radio. There were two additional electronic devices; a Sony input selector and a strange circuit board which I guess is used to help switch from the living area speakers to the front bedroom speakers. I'm no longer going to use the speakers so I cut the wires to the speakers.

I was dismayed there was such a large hole in the back as my plan was to move the end of the audio partition closer to the middle and install a 12v USB charging station. What I plan to do is get it patched with just a 12v lead coming out to supply power to the 12v USB station. I will probably paint the back curved wall on both sides so they match.

The Sony input selector was stuffed behind the back curved wall and the other circuit board connector was laying inside the audio cabinet.

I also purchase the 28" Insignia HDTV with DVD. I temporarily mounted the TV on the articulating stand to see how it fit. It is so much lighter than the Sony 23" LCD. I'll need to purchase some shorter M4 bolts to mount it.

I'm planning on installing a shelf above the TV to hold the Bluetooth speaker I eventually choose and an Apple TV. I'll probable buy some metal L brackets to mount on the TV articulating arm base then screw on a hickory shelf.

The first photo shows the rats nest after unplugging the radio. The second shows the Sony input selector that was stuffed in the large hole. The third shows the other circuit board. The forth photo shows the just the 12v wires for the lights over the dinette. I stuffed the speaker wires in the hole.

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Here are a couple of photos showing the Insignia HDTV with DVD mounted.

The first photo shows my mount. The 2nd and 3rd show the TV on the mount. This new TV is considerably larger then the Sony but so much lighter and more energy efficient.

I've tested the TV at home. The picture looks good and its nice to have the DVD on the TV. I now have only one remote to worry about. I'll probably wait to get a Bluetooth speaker. I like the Riva TurboX but its $350.

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It's been awhile since I started this thread but I've finally got it finished.

The summarize:

I decided to remove the radio/DVD player in the dinette cabinet to make more room for storage since we didn't use the radio or DVD that much.

So I removed the radio and disassembled the mounting panel.

This left a large hole in the back of the cabinet. I sorted the wiring and bundled the wires together with tie wraps and electrical tape.

I ordered a 1/32" section of birch plywood from MicroMark to make a patch. I painted with a off white flat paint from Lowes

I cut off a section of the front panel with a neighbor's table saw wide enough so there would be enough space to mount a 12v receptacle with powered USB ports.

The TV is an Insignia 28" with DVD. It comes with a brick that transforms from 110v to 12v do I purchased a 12v to 3.5mm curley cord adapter and I run the TV off 12V.

I finally purchased the Riva TurboX Bluetooth speaker. It connects to the TV via its supplied 3.5mm cord.

I found it sounded best with the speaker above the TV so I purchased a Center Stage bracket shelf. Its an aluminum shelf that sits on top of the TV. The weight of the speaker keeps it secured on the TV. The shelf and speaker are removed for travel.
http://centerstagebracket.com/collec...lite-bracket-1
Purchased from Crutchfield.

Here are some photos of the cabinet, before and after.
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Here are some photos of the TV area with the Riva TurboX speaker

The audio is not as loud or spacious as the two wall speakers but the Riva speaker is much, much better than the built in TV speakers. Playing music back from the old radio with the external DVD player is better speaker quality.

I will have to wait to test the volume when the roof A/C is running. Hopefully the speaker is powerful enough to overcome the A/C fan noise.

If not I may have to evaluate my this system. I could always go back to a car radio system and use a remote inferred repeater so I don't have to keep the cabinet open.

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