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Old 02-05-2006, 11:22 PM   #1
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I am soon to be retired, and will thereafter spend much more time in my trailer.
I am interested in an upgrade in interior music quality. Tunes are vastly more important in my trailer than video. I currently have a pair of (remarkable) Epos Els-3 bookshelf speakers, an old 100 watt/channel integrated amp, and a mediocre CD player.
This system delivers surprisingly good sound quality. I want to go to "astonishingly good." I'm looking to dedicate a system to the trailer. Ideally, I'd like to leave it in place permanently, on the road and in camp.
Have you dedicated an integrated amp to the trailer? Will a tube amp survive road travel? Have you tried something that did NOT work? How do you route the honkin' large diameter speaker cables? I like to know what works for you.
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:17 AM   #2
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Mark - stay way from tube type amps. They will not survive the road and temp changes in the NW. And (awaiting flames) despite what the audiofile world hypes... they don't sound better - that warm sound that some love is really just degraded signal, with the crispness scrubbed off the top.
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Old 02-06-2006, 06:15 AM   #3
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I admit I'm not an audiophile but my son and daughter-in-law bought me a Cambridge speaker player for my XM radio which has the the most fantastic sound I have ever heard. The benefit is that I can take it outside and in the house when Chummy is parked. The unit is heavy but not very large and fits comfortably in front of our motor home and will literally fill the entire coach with fantastic sound.
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I'm with Chaplain Kent with the XM, I have XM also and love it you have a endless choice of tunes. Why dont you buy a new hundred + watt reciever with CD they have all kinds of tuners now with with just about any output watts you want, I say keep it simple. You can buy XM satalite and get the indoor outdoor antena, Buy the indoor power base for the reciever and then tune your stereo to a certain channel and match the channel on your XM reciever and play XM tunes over your new hi watt car stereo reciever system in your trailer. thats what I do, then you can also move your XM reciever to your TV. Just a thought. I better add this thought also for the SIRUS lovers out there. You can also look at SIRUS satalite also then you can pick whitch programing you prefere of the two, I bought XM because they have NASCAR radeo, but now SIRUS will have that contract in 07.



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Old 02-06-2006, 07:12 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Mark Wiltrakis
I am soon to be retired, and will thereafter spend much more time in my trailer.
I am interested in an upgrade in interior music quality. Tunes are vastly more important in my trailer than video. I currently have a pair of (remarkable) Epos Els-3 bookshelf speakers, an old 100 watt/channel integrated amp, and a mediocre CD player.
........ I like to know what works for you.
Mark
hi mark,
you sound like a candidate for tinnitus, if you are not there already... i pulled out the sony that was in my trailer, and replaced it with a 20 year old blaupunkt... if i need to play a cd, i put a cassette adaptor in...it aint pretty, but it works for me....just remember, if youre going to s.f., be sure to wear some flowers in your hair. ......rock on.
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Old 02-06-2006, 07:23 AM   #6
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Mark - stay way from tube type amps. They will not survive the road and temp changes in the NW. And (awaiting flames) despite what the audiofile world hypes... they don't sound better - that warm sound that some love is really just degraded signal, with the crispness scrubbed off the top.
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Mark,

If you want a unit that is capable of 12VDC or 120VAC operation, look at the Model 12 on the Cambridge Soundworks web site. It comes packed in a briefcase with a subwoofer, amp and 2 matched speakers. This is far and away the finest portable unit I have ever heard, and consequently I own 3 of them. I use one in my 19CCD and one in each of my vehicles. I found it way cheaper than a car stereo and the sound quality is far superior, IMHO. There are a variety of inputs so you can use satellite radio, conventional radio, CD, tapes, whatever you like!

It is not a 100 watt unit but plays loud enough to hurt you with excellent quality! It is worth checking out. I believe they are in the $400 price range COMPLETE.
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Old 02-06-2006, 07:35 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Mark Wiltrakis
I am soon to be retired, and will thereafter spend much more time in my trailer.
I am interested in an upgrade in interior music quality. Tunes are vastly more important in my trailer than video. I currently have a pair of (remarkable) Epos Els-3 bookshelf speakers, an old 100 watt/channel integrated amp, and a mediocre CD player.
This system delivers surprisingly good sound quality. I want to go to "astonishingly good." I'm looking to dedicate a system to the trailer. Ideally, I'd like to leave it in place permanently, on the road and in camp.
Have you dedicated an integrated amp to the trailer? Will a tube amp survive road travel? Have you tried something that did NOT work? How do you route the honkin' large diameter speaker cables? I like to know what works for you.
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Mark,
Consider a system by Bose. Their passive Acoustimass3 System sounds better than I had anticipated, and only takes up very little space. Bose makes their sub/satelite systems sound integrated, as it should be, and their audio dispersion seems to work well in the trailer's interior. There is a very nice musical quality to this, not quite audiophile, but a great compromise between practicality and audio quality. It is efficient, so it can be good and loud with a regular 12v powered car audio amp. The car stereo deck of your choice can be i-pod and xm ready, or you can go straight from the i-pods headphone output into a car stereo amp.
A system like that, running on 12V, would then be consistent, when hooked up or while boondocking. If you get everything all at once, you will end up under $ 1000.00 for an excellent audio system that rocks your world.
I am in the process of buying the components to install this in my 1963 Overlander. Only I will most likely use a MacMini for a cd/dvd/mp3 player.
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Old 02-06-2006, 08:23 AM   #9
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Uwe .. We agree with you... we just have the small unit and it is wonderful.. love the sound out of it.. going to figure a way to hook up the satelite radio thru it... Annie
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Old 02-06-2006, 08:24 AM   #10
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Speaker cable routing

I ran 12ga speaker cable inside the walls, from front to rear while re-wiring my Overlander. This may not be practical for you in a new trailer, but there are many ways that you can run speaker cables inside your furniture, under counters, perhaps along the perimeter inside a wiring loom etc.
I used dedicated speaker wire made by sound king. It is oxygen free copper, fine stranded, and coded positive and negative. It is a soft and very flexible cable, which makes it easy to conform into tight places.
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I auditioned some speakers for home use a few years back. Thought the Bose had weak midrange and went for Klipsch. I would be worried that a high end system in your trailer is just an invitation for someone to steal it.
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hey mark,
surf this....
www.blaupunktusa.com
this one is in your neck of the woods...
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I auditioned some speakers for home use a few years back. Thought the Bose had weak midrange and went for Klipsch. I would be worried that a high end system in your trailer is just an invitation for someone to steal it.
I am with you on both counts. With the exception that the Bose Acoustimass 3 is all but invisible, if the bass module is hidden from view inside a vented cupboard or closet, or under the goucho etc. It can lay flat. The cubes can be conceiled behind a thin curtain ,or even put behind existing speaker mounting locations.
The sound quality is arguable, and open for interpretation, as it is a subjective matter. However, in the confines of an Airstream, I found the little cubes to be very pleasant.
In any case, it is somewhat difficult to get true audiophile sound in an Airstream, as speaker placement for optimum listening position is very impractical while camping. I have a spectrum analyzer, tone generator, and a calibrated microphone, and will do some comparisons once the Overlander is nearing completion.
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Old 02-06-2006, 11:09 PM   #14
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Thanks to all who replied to my query - a lot more response than I'd expected!! I have the Sirius gear in place in the trailer, and can use it with my current stereo. Ditto my mp3 player and its 1900+ tracks. I'm completely sold on my Epos speakers. I plan to mount/suspend them beneath kitchen cabinetry facing forward. My missing piece is a home-quality integrated amp. The theft issue concerns me - all the gear (except the speakers) can reside in the existing cabinet next to the trailer door.
I asked the tube amp question only in hopes that someone had tried it and succeeded. I think the sound is quite different than solid state gear. "Better" or "worse" depends on what an individual likes. Even with solid state gear, road travel would be a test of durability. Has anyone had an amplifier conk out due to trailer travel?
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