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Old 12-05-2019, 09:46 PM   #1
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I've never gotten my television to work off of the antenna in our 1991 exella 34ft since I've owned it the last 9 years. I have replaced the bat wing with a King Jack and am using the king jack signal amplifier. I have a signal finder for aiming the antenna that lights up 4 bars but still no picture. In the picture I've bypassed the original signal amplifier. I've also checked with a multimeter that the center electrode of the coaxial cable is not grounded but I don't know if there is a continuous path from the antenna to the amplifier.

For those of you that have had the skins off the inside, is there a junction between the wall and the antenna and might it be accessible? The coaxial is grey on the exterior segment but coming out of the wall it is black as in pic. Included is a pic from the owners manual.

Tomorrow I'm going to run directly from the antenna to the amplifier via the fantastic fan opening and see what I get.Click image for larger version

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Old 12-05-2019, 10:16 PM   #2
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I feel your pain. It will bring you no relief to report that the cable pathway likely varries somewhat from trailer to trailer. They string these up without the use of any sort of conduit or cable trays, sometimes literally taping the cables to the inside of the outer skin, I kid you not.

I am not aware of any junction box, they usually lay the cables in continuous runs, but there might be a signal splitter in the wall somewhere. You may dig a little under the exterior antenna mount to check the connection there. Correct me if I am wrong, but don't the 34s have a drop in bedroom and living area? Perhaps the cable was run daisy chained and it hit the other TV first; if that was removed, maybe the cable was never reconnected from there.

I would not at all be surprised if you find the cable isn't even connected (find a way to test it with a multimeter, if you're really curious.)

If that does not work, the remedy is to either run a new cable outside the walls, or drill out the rivets on the inner skin and run one behind the walls, then replace the skins -- this could be a major pain, especially if you have to remove bulkheads and cabinetry to do so.

Alternatively, you could relegate the TV to watching Blu-Ray or Apple TV, or if you're lucky, put a cheap digital antenna (we used to call them rabbit ears) in a nearby window facing the signal source, and feed OTA TV signals in that way.
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Old 12-06-2019, 03:42 AM   #3
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This was supposed to upload, it shows a splitter and a VCR before the TV Jack. I need to find this in a cabinet.Click image for larger version

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Old 12-06-2019, 12:15 PM   #4
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Here is the first connector. I removed the inside trim from the front fan and can see it right below the antenna base next to the shaft. It looks a little corroded or just covered with white silicone? Instead of pulling the base off the outside skin I think I'm going to try to get at it from the inside by removing the rivets at the end of the center ceiling panel and flex it down. First I'll remove the crank and cover plate to see if I can get at it. There is no slack.Click image for larger version

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Old 12-06-2019, 02:20 PM   #5
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I got it working, the old wall amplifier was not letting the signal through. Threw that out and am using the new amplifier that came with the King Jack. My other issue was the wiring problem in the cabinet and we need to use the digital converter because the TV is 2005 and they made the change from analog to digital in 2009.Click image for larger version

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Old 12-06-2019, 02:41 PM   #6
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This was supposed to upload, it shows a splitter and a VCR before the TV Jack. I need to find this in a cabinet.Attachment 357324
If it is actually wired that way, that is your problem. The front TV jack (with the cable/antenna pushbutton) provides the power to the preamp in the antenna. It can’t do that through the splitter and vcr.

At least, that’s my best guess. Replace the splitter by connecting the antenna to the cable to the VCR and then connect the two vcr cables together. This should make the antenna work, but then cable won’t.

My satellite install post has a diagram of how it all should be wired.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/atta...5&d=1423941158

I see you got it working while I was searching for my link.

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Old 12-30-2019, 07:00 PM   #7
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I had problems with it again. The center wire showed continuity but the outer connector did not. I found the problem directly below the base of the antenna where the installer uses a screw on coaxial end and held it on with electrical tape. There was corrosion etc but I prep'd it and put a new end on it. Now it works again.

I got a bunch more room to work by removing the rivets from the center ceiling and pulling it down a bit. You can see it here below the shaft of the antenna. Click image for larger version

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