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09-24-2016, 01:06 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
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ABYC has a 4 cable limit on any post or terminal block connections. More than that needs a terminal block or 2.
Also, the use of wing nuts us limited to trawling motors with a maximum cable size of 8 AWG.
Stainless flange nuts are all I use on the majority of my connections, but Lifeline AGMs and Victron lithiums use their own bolts.
Lew Farber
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Solar Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
Victron Solar Components and Inverters, Zamp Solar Panels, LiFeBlue and Battle Born Lithium Batteries, Lifeline AGM Batteries
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09-24-2016, 01:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
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If you did not heat the lug, too, then you have a cold solder connection that eventually will be high resistance. Especially with the shaking that an Airstream gets. I hope you did not just stick the hot wire in the lug, as you said. You have to flow solder into both the hot wire and lug simultaneously.
Larry
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09-24-2016, 01:47 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1979 31' Excella 500
Charlevoix
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lsbrodsky
If you did not heat the lug, too, then you have a cold solder connection that eventually will be high resistance. Especially with the shaking that an Airstream gets. I hope you did not just stick the hot wire in the lug, as you said. You have to flow solder into both the hot wire and lug simultaneously.
Larry
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Agreed Larry. I torched the lug with the solder inside, melted the solder that way and then stuck the cable in before it cooled.
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09-24-2016, 02:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
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Whew!
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09-24-2016, 11:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
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A proper crimp connection is much better and easier to make. Vibration eventually crystallizes solder and makes a bad joint.
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09-25-2016, 06:25 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Curtis Wright
Currently Looking...
Eyren Haven
, South Jersey
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lewster
ABYC has a 4 cable limit on any post or terminal block connections. More than that needs a terminal block or 2.
Lew Farber
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I have a Duracell bank. While true about 4 cables, I bet that top terminal bolt is only 1/2 way on the threads. If not less.
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09-25-2016, 06:36 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1979 31' Excella 500
Charlevoix
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 350
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zil
I have a Duracell bank. While true about 4 cables, I bet that top terminal bolt is only 1/2 way on the threads. If not less.
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I'd say more like 3/4
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09-29-2016, 09:49 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
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I have my battery cables made up from welding cable and crimped on loop terminals. Works fine... just fine... the individual conductors are very small to enable flexibility... they also carry plenty current... :roll eyes:
That way I don't have to 'settle' for stock cables.. I have done this on golf carts, relocated batteries in marine and auto.. and when I have a problem with my stock wires, they will be upgraded too.
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09-29-2016, 11:06 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1973 31' Sovereign
Middletown
, California
Join Date: Oct 2013
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When I make golf cart cables or other battery cables I smear lots of rosin flux on the wire and inside the terminals before crimping. Then I heat the assembly and flow solder into the terminal until I'm sure that all the flux has been displaced and the area has no space that corrosion can occupy. I try to make the copper cable one with the terminal so to speak. Then I clean off any left over flux with a toothbrush and isopropyl alcohol. I have seen many connections that look good but are corroded inside. Checking for voltage drop or heating while heavy current flows will tell if the connections are good.
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09-30-2016, 05:50 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
Hilltop Lakes
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,767
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Next time you take the cables off, use an ohm meter to check the resistance in each individual cable. Should be zero-- 1 or 2 maybe. More than that, there's a connector problem.
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