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09-17-2014, 05:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
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Wet Cell Mucho Thirsty!
So I had forgot to check the water level on my batteries in a few months...checked them...looked very much low....added quite a bit of distilled water to top them off...wow...had no idea they got that low....I hope this will not have ruined them...I have a trickle charge type of unit I use on my small bass boat gel cell and starting battery and I can read volts from that...I suppose if it reads as a certain voltage at this point, its fine?
I have read on this forum that the stock “single stage” converter that I have is very bad about “boiling” out the batteries...that certainly seems to be the case.
I will be going on a quick weekend boondocking trip in 2 weeks - should I do more to check the health of these batteries at this stage? if so what.
Thanks
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09-17-2014, 05:48 PM
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Rivet Master
2000 25' Safari
Davidson County
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If the plates were still covered with electrolyte, there's probably no damage.
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2014 Silverado LTZ 1500 Crew Cab 5.3L maximum trailering package
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09-17-2014, 06:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
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I am going to go unplug tonight - leave lights and bathroom small vent fan on and see what happens by morning
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09-17-2014, 06:10 PM
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Airstream Driver
1994 30' Excella
1992 35' Airstream 350
Austin
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make sure to check them individually
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1990 25' Excella Travel trailer
1992 350LE Classic Touring Coach
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09-17-2014, 06:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' FB International
2007 20' Safari SE
2005 19' Safari
Qualicum Beach
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I had the same issue in the first 6m of ownership of my 2014 and actually went through 2L of distilled water in that time. After much complaining to my dealer they replaced them with 2 brand new batteries that they just got in stock and the problem has not returned in the last 6m. I had never had this problem with my last 2 A/S's and had the old battery burner in them. I have taken the precaution to switch to the PD 4655 just in case though.
George
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09-17-2014, 06:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
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PD 6566?
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09-17-2014, 06:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
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Were replacements same brand wet cell interstate?
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09-17-2014, 08:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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My OE Interstates and original converter needed water monthly. Now with replacement Interstate group 29s (now almost 4 years old) and an Iota 3 stage, I top off with (not much) water in the spring when I put them in the trailer and again in fall when I take them out. In the winter they are on a Batteryminder, which doesn't boil them out either.
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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09-17-2014, 09:08 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
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if the plates were exposed (dry) at the top you most likely have damaged them.
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09-17-2014, 09:53 PM
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
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PD4655 = Progressive Dynamics 4655 converter. It's a swap-in replacement for the Parallax 7355, but it's a smart charger with 3 stages and it won't damage your batteries no matter how long you leave the trailer plugged into AC power with the switch in "USE" vs. "STORE". Oh, and when your batteries need a good charge, the PD4655 will also charge them faster.
There are several threads (including one of mine) that explain how to make the swap, should you be so inclined.
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09-17-2014, 10:10 PM
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
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Hey Geek, go have a listen here: The Vintage Airstream Podcast | Vintage Trailer Restoration Episode 216.
I bought a 3 stage Iota from Randy several years ago and connected it to a jell (gel, gell? it's late) cell battery. Good ever since.
And thanks for taking care of our Veterans.
Jim
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09-17-2014, 10:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
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Thanks - I guess I will look I to this new piece of electronics being how dramatically quick the water burns off
I hope the batteries are not ruined - ugh
I am running fantastic fan on low tonight and check batteries in am
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09-17-2014, 10:57 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Central
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Tagging in so I can find this thread again
Tks
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09-17-2014, 11:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' FB International
2007 20' Safari SE
2005 19' Safari
Qualicum Beach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmGeek
PD 6566?
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Progressive Dynamics 4655
George
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09-17-2014, 11:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' FB International
2007 20' Safari SE
2005 19' Safari
Qualicum Beach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmGeek
Were replacements same brand wet cell interstate?
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Same brand Group 24
George
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09-18-2014, 05:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
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Wet Cell Mucho Thirsty!
Some perhaps good news
After running the fantastic fan on lowest setting for 12 hours today without shore power the micro pulse monitor still reads as full - in going to go check the voltage from the battery as well
I guess this does not rule out a failure(s) but so far so good - I hope
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09-18-2014, 08:39 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' FB International
2007 20' Safari SE
2005 19' Safari
Qualicum Beach
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Not to burst your bubble, but since installing the Trimetric , I have noticed that full on the Micropulse isn't very accurate.
If you do nothing else, install a good battery monitor. It's easy, and worth the peace of mind.
George
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09-18-2014, 09:35 PM
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Living Riveted since 2013
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OMG, the Micropulse isn't accurate? What is the world coming to? How could that possibly be true?
Pretty hilarious there, George.
I'm kidding, of course. I'm a kidder.
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09-18-2014, 09:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
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lol, I am aware of its lack of accuracy....but I guess it is hopeful at least maybe that a) the batter is not so dead yet that my lights and fans are not working or b) the micropulse shows it “full”....
Ie, the batteries do not appear ruined....I hope....
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09-18-2014, 09:51 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' FB International
2007 20' Safari SE
2005 19' Safari
Qualicum Beach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvery Moon
OMG, the Micropulse isn't accurate? What is the world coming to? How could that possibly be true?
Pretty hilarious there, George.
I'm kidding, of course. I'm a kidder.
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The world loves a kidder....lol
George
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