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01-15-2010, 11:31 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
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Univolt location in a 62
If anyone know the original location of a univolt in a 62 Airstream please advise.
Bob or Dave if you see this and have an answer please call me as we are remote to the net and a neighbor needs the answer.
Others please post and i hope we will get the answer before we part company with the Airstreamer that needs the answer.
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01-15-2010, 03:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,259
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62 ??
What model of a 62 is it?? Dave
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01-15-2010, 03:33 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1968 24' Tradewind
1959 17' Pacer
Vintage Kin Owner
holly springs
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 405
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Hello
I think the first year for univolt was 64, before that 12v and 120 were separate.
Kevin
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01-15-2010, 04:58 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1961 16' Bambi
Las Cruces
, New Mexico
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 134
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hi
i've been about all over a '61 bambi. have yet to find a fuse panel for 12 volts or a univolt. there is a breaker box and polarity bulb for commercial electric. the tow vehicle cable goes inside the shell with no place to see the connections for what it powers. i'm slowly redoing the electric and have yet to find the old. i've left in the breaker box and polarity bulb for looks.
the new is starting to stand tall as it should be!
don
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01-15-2010, 05:05 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HowieE
If anyone know the original location of a univolt in a 62 Airstream please advise.
Bob or Dave if you see this and have an answer please call me as we are remote to the net and a neighbor needs the answer.
Others please post and i hope we will get the answer before we part company with the Airstreamer that needs the answer.
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Howie.
Univolts in any form, were not used until the 1964 models.
Andy
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01-15-2010, 05:11 PM
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Airstream Rescue
1948 22' Liner
1955 22' Flying Cloud
1966 20' Globetrotter
Wimberley
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 39
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Univolt
I believe the following is correct:
The first Univolt was introduced in 1964, but this was actually only a transfromer that transformed 120 Volt AC to 18 and 12 Volt AC. The first actual Univolt Converter that converted 120 Volt AC to 12 Volt DC was 1965.
Pat
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01-15-2010, 06:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,259
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OK,how was the battery charged pre 64 ?? Dave
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01-15-2010, 07:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1968 24' Tradewind
1959 17' Pacer
Vintage Kin Owner
holly springs
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 405
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Dave
pretty sure it was charged only by the TV. But in the case of dual voltage appliances there must be a transformer in the 120v line of the appliance.
Kevin
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01-15-2010, 08:52 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1961 16' Bambi
Las Cruces
, New Mexico
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 134
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hi
sorry to may have misled. with my '61 bambi i said the tow vehicle cable just disappears. should have said: leaves the tow vehicle, goes to a junction box on the side of the tongue, 4 wires come out, 2 for the battery charge which in my case used to be on the tongue, 2 for the break-a-way brake things, then the same size cable disappears. only thing left for it to do in 1961 was interior lights, running lights, and water pump. so simple that's it's a puzzler....
don
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01-15-2010, 08:56 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easyride
OK,how was the battery charged pre 64 ?? Dave
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The battery could be charged when hooked up to the tow vehicle.
But you could also hook up a "battery charger" to the battery, and watch it so it didn't overcharge.
That was it from Airstream production.
Andy
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01-22-2010, 10:32 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
New Borockton
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,593
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How hard would it be to find the charge line and DC wires and connect them to a converter and a fuse board. I'm not up on the pre 64 model wiring but it does not sound too complicated to me.
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01-22-2010, 10:44 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 28' Ambassador
1962 30' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Webster Groves
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 68 Overlander
How hard would it be to find the charge line and DC wires and connect them to a converter and a fuse board. I'm not up on the pre 64 model wiring but it does not sound too complicated to me.
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The fact that you have nothing but a few 12v fixtures + a battery, no fuses or access to wiring your really starting from scratch ...
Bob
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01-22-2010, 10:56 PM
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Retired.
Currently Looking...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 68 Overlander
How hard would it be to find the charge line and DC wires and connect them to a converter and a fuse board. I'm not up on the pre 64 model wiring but it does not sound too complicated to me.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xbob2
The fact that you have nothing but a few 12v fixtures + a battery, no fuses or access to wiring your really starting from scratch ...
Bob
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The charge line goes into an area under the belly pan, covered by a sheet of aluminum, usually on the right (curb) side of the trailer, near where the A-frame joins the frame. There is usually a self-resetting breaker there for the charge line.
I installed a converter under the kitchen counter next to the battery compartment, connected to several fuses, and replaced the self-resetting breakers in 3 spots in and under the trailer. I put a piece of clear Plexiglas over the fuse panel to keep metal kitchen utensils from shorting things out, and still tell at-a-glance if the fuses were blown.
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01-22-2010, 10:59 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
New Borockton
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Bob are you too wiring a pre 64? Maybe you can help too. We are helping Howie find the wiring from where it exits and comes visable so we can see what we have to work with. Is it accessable in your unit? I'm figuring its a buried deep and curious if its accessible.
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01-22-2010, 11:07 PM
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Retired.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 68 Overlander
Bob are you too wiring a pre 64? Maybe you can help too. We are helping Howie find the wiring from where it exits and comes visable so we can see what we have to work with. Is it accessable in your unit? I'm figuring its a buried deep and curious if its accessible.
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Randy, see my post above. The charge line should be in a small area inside an aluminum cover on the belly pan. The charge line and battery lead should both be there.
Also, if you want a battery to fit that compartment under the window, it should be a 2EE or 3EE.
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01-22-2010, 11:13 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 28' Ambassador
1962 30' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Webster Groves
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 68 Overlander
Bob are you too wiring a pre 64? Maybe you can help too. We are helping Howie find the wiring from where it exits and comes visable so we can see what we have to work with. Is it accessable in your unit? I'm figuring its a buried deep and curious if its accessible.
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Thats just the thing ... The TV +12v goes to the battery + and the battery + then fans out inside the skin ... looping fixture to fixture ... no fuse no nuttin'.
The umbilical wire nuts to the wiring runs inside the front panel just inside of the street side seam right above the floor. One of my 62s had a hole cut on the inside panel under the gaucho to effect repairs ... careful you don't cut wires when you cut the panel.
Bob
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01-22-2010, 11:16 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 28' Ambassador
1962 30' Sovereign
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Webster Groves
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
Randy, see my post above. The charge line should be in a small area inside an aluminum cover on the belly pan. The charge line and battery lead should both be there.
Also, if you want a battery to fit that compartment under the window, it should be a 2EE or 3EE.
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I'll look again but don't remember covers on either one of mine ...
Bob
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01-22-2010, 11:21 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
New Borockton
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2002
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I learned something. I don't have a pre 64, thanks and I see Terry has the answer. Good work Terry!
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01-22-2010, 11:25 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 28' Ambassador
1962 30' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Webster Groves
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 68 Overlander
I learned something. I don't have a pre 64, thanks and I see Terry has the answer. Good work Terry!
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Yeah, yeah! ... You Overlanders stick together ...
Bob
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