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Old 05-13-2016, 09:45 AM   #1
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This is qwhat 600 AH of LFPs look like

These are the LFP's sold by AM Solar and installed by Lewster (aka Lew Farber.)
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Old 05-13-2016, 10:12 AM   #2
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Nice install. Battery cost, weight, and warranty please?
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Old 05-13-2016, 02:40 PM   #3
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Like the cooling fans. Are they controlled by a thermostat?

I'm guessing, excluding the solar panels, close to $10k for all the parts and labor in the photo.

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Purchase would require a second mortgage.
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Like the cooling fans. Are they controlled by a thermostat?

I'm guessing, excluding the solar panels, close to $10k for all the parts and labor in the photo.

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Wow!!!.....that's qwhat a lot of money.







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The cost of the batteries (w/out installation) is about $4,500 and weighs about 150 lbs. In terms only of capacity, we have about 480 usable amps which is approximately equal to 960 AH of AGMs which would cost about half as much for high quality Lifelines, and weigh about 500 lbs. ("inexpensive" Interstates and Walmart batteries would cost less than Lifelines.)

When you add the 3,000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter/charger, 740 watts of solar panels and the Blue Sky controller, the new breaker panels and associated rewiring, the 12 volt marine fridge, and some of the other bells and whistles, the cost of the batteries is a small part of the whole thing. This is not an "affordable" solution by any means. But it does allow us to live "off grid" as if we were "on grid." And yes, we can run one AC unit off the batteries for a few hours or with a single 2,000 watt generator as long as our propane holds out.
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Very nice Bob. I bet you are happy.

Love how people who own an Airstream gawk at spending money on something like this.
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Very nice Bob. I bet you are happy.

Love how people who own an Airstream gawk at spending money on something like this.
Hi Mike, When you live in the trailer for 10 months of the year, it doesn't seem like such an extravagance. If we just did this for a few weekends and a two week vacation each year then we would probably not have gone this route.
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It will be worth it. It's literally been a game changer for us. I never worry anymore or even look at my monitors. It's kind of nice just knowing we have the power all the time.

And two weeks ago now, we had an entire week of rain and clouds, I think on average the solar never peaked over 7 amps, but we never drained the 400Ah with our usage or needed to break out the generator. Which was amazing.

You'll love it. You're right, if you are a weekender, it might not be the investment for you. But anyone who spends a significant amount of time in their Airstream, (especially without hookups) it is worth the investment. And consider it that, an INVESTMENT.
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We replaced the four Lifeline model 6ct 6Vdc 300 amp-hour batteries that weighed 92 pounds each (around $1,600 un-installed) and their custom stainless steel enclosure on the tongue of the Classic with one (roughly $4,600) AM Solar 600 amp-hour lithium iron phosphate battery (under the front sofa) that weighed in at 168 pounds (four 42 pound models at 3.2 Vdc with six cells rated 100 amp-hours each).

While the Lifelines could provide 300 amp-hours of power (50%), the lithium can provide close to 540 amp-hours or 90%.

We put a 300 amp-hour AM Solar lithium in the 23D that weighs 84 pounds or about 7 pounds less than the two stock Interstate batteries. The foot print is 14" x 18" as I remember.

At the time, the additional hidden cost was my driving from the Phoenix area to Eugene, OR to get them (two separate trips) and then get them to the installer to Paradise, TX. They could not be shipped assembled by common carrier then.
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Love how people who own an Airstream gawk at spending money on something like this.

Agreed, seeing as how drum brakes went obsolete in any real sense a quarter century ago one wonders why anything but disc brakes are acceptable.

Electricity is pretty low in importance for what constitutes an RV. It's far harder to justify as the needs of food, water and shelter are the essentials and only a bare minimum of electricity is sufficient.

As well, it is not only the initial price of lithium batteries, but their cost per hour over how long they'll last.

It's no bargain without high annual usage.

Better brakes pay for themselves in a split second. Upsizing drums is a joke. Same for some other examples.
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As well, it is not only the initial price of lithium batteries, but their cost per hour over how long they'll last.
They actually come out cheaper than lead when you do that math. And this is out-dated. But it still held up last time I did it.

http://www.technomadia.com/2011/11/l...-battery-cost/

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