Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-17-2011, 03:29 PM   #1
Rivet Master
 
VeggieBullet's Avatar
 
1973 31' Sovereign
2007 20' Safari SE
Vintage Kin Owner
Wesley Chapel , Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 879
No univolt or Distribution Panel. Now what?

We had no need of the 12V system yet.
But I decided to start working on our 12V sys.
The PO gutted the rear bath out and on the process Univolt and Distribution panel went out.
Open the Batt Compartment and locate all the wires and according to our service manual was able to identify every color by their function except the big white wire. Everything is in the manual:
RED/BLACK/GREY/PURPLE/YELLOW/PINK /BROWN /BLUE
WHITE ????????
Connected our regular batt charger but obviously there was no ground to test anything
Few questions:
1: What is the white for? Ground?
2: Where do the Red & Black big cables from the batt are going to?
3: Can we just "BY PASS" the Univolt for testing purposes?
4: Best options for a converter?
5: Where & how the 12V ground is connected?
Thanks
__________________

__________________
Still One Nation under GOD
2 chronicles 7:14
VeggieBullet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2011, 03:36 PM   #2
Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
 
Inland RV Center, In's Avatar
 
Corona , California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,499
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeggieBullet View Post
We had no need of the 12V system yet.
But I decided to start working on our 12V sys.
The PO gutted the rear bath out and on the process Univolt and Distribution panel went out.
Open the Batt Compartment and locate all the wires and according to our service manual was able to identify every color by their function except the big white wire. Everything is in the manual:
RED/BLACK/GREY/PURPLE/YELLOW/PINK /BROWN /BLUE
WHITE ????????
Connected our regular batt charger but obviously there was no ground to test anything
Few questions:
1: What is the white for? Ground?
2: Where do the Red & Black big cables from the batt are going to?
3: Can we just "BY PASS" the Univolt for testing purposes?
4: Best options for a converter?
5: Where & how the 12V ground is connected?
Thanks
1. The white is ground.
2. Those wires went to the Univolt.
3. Sure.
4. Brand "X" or the one Airstream uses today.
5. The ground goes to the shell and chassis.

Andy 14.5K
__________________

__________________
Inland RV Center, In is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2011, 03:40 PM   #3
Rivet Master
 
tkasten's Avatar
 
1965 22' Safari
Vassar , Michigan
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 847
Images: 6
White goes to the ground block.
__________________
Tim
TAC MI 14

Everyday is a Saturday
tkasten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2011, 03:46 PM   #4
Rivet Master
 
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia , Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
1. White is ground in most all Airstream systems, other than the negative cable from the battery, which is generally black.
2. The original red and black (+ and -) from the battery went to the missing Univolt most likely or the missing fuse panel.
3. Since the fuse panel is gone you said, the battery could be connected, via fuses please, to each of the distribution fuses, and thus you would "bypass" what you don't have. That way you can test each circuit. Your black battery cable could connect to the large white ground wire you have.
4. The Intellapower 9245 is a very good 3 stage converter charger, popular and relatively inexpensive (about $150 or less usually on the net)
5. See #3
__________________
idroba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2011, 04:29 PM   #5
Rivet Master
 
VeggieBullet's Avatar
 
1973 31' Sovereign
2007 20' Safari SE
Vintage Kin Owner
Wesley Chapel , Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 879
Hi guys and thanks for the quick reply.
Tried connecting the white cable (ground) to the Black (Neg) from the Batt charger and is not making ground.
Where that White wire supposed to end? Does it have a particular OEM location or can I just ground it to the frame?
__________________
Still One Nation under GOD
2 chronicles 7:14
VeggieBullet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2011, 04:46 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
Currently Looking...
Nowhere , Somewhere
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,417
Blog Entries: 2
See post 3. jim
__________________
avionstream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2011, 08:40 PM   #7
Rivet Master
 
VeggieBullet's Avatar
 
1973 31' Sovereign
2007 20' Safari SE
Vintage Kin Owner
Wesley Chapel , Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 879
how about this?

anyone ever used one of these?
Attached Files
File Type: pdf wf8900b.pdf (2.03 MB, 47 views)
__________________
Still One Nation under GOD
2 chronicles 7:14
VeggieBullet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2011, 02:21 AM   #8
Rivet Master
 
BIGED52's Avatar
 
1967 22' Safari
MILAN , Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeggieBullet View Post
Hi guys and thanks for the quick reply.
Tried connecting the white cable (ground) to the Black (Neg) from the Batt charger and is not making ground.
Where that White wire supposed to end? Does it have a particular OEM location or can I just ground it to the frame?
VeggieBullet, On my '67 Safari the white wire goes to the grounding block. The block was located in the battery box under the battery tray. My tray was metal and the block was mounted to the bottom of it. All the ground wires (White) for the 12 volt system were connected on the block and the white wire you are talking of completed the ground for all the 12 volt outlets, switches and lights. It was connected to the battery negitive side thru a 30 amp fuse mounted to a fuse block on the plywood floor next to the battery tray. Hope this helps. Happy Trails, Ed
__________________
1967 Safari Twin "Landshark" w/International trim package
1999 GMC Sierra 1500 SLT
FORUMS MEMBER SINCE 12/16/2004AIR#7110
"My tire was thumping, I thought it was flat. When I looked at the tire, I noticed your CAT!" Burma Shave
BIGED52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2011, 02:01 PM   #9
Rivet Master
 
VeggieBullet's Avatar
 
1973 31' Sovereign
2007 20' Safari SE
Vintage Kin Owner
Wesley Chapel , Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 879
Inline fuses for Test

Thanks guys.
Well it seems like until i figure everything out we should start testing everything with inline fuses so:
1) What size of fuses should we use to test the fans and lights one by one?
2) How about one of these WFCO 45AMP?
We have one on our slide in camper and no complains.
thanks
Attached Images
 
__________________

__________________
Still One Nation under GOD
2 chronicles 7:14
VeggieBullet is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
12 volt panel location-'79 24' motorhome roadking67 Electrical - Systems, Generators, Batteries & Solar 1 10-05-2011 11:48 AM
Converter connundrum: fuse panel options? Phrunes Batteries, Univolts, Converters & Inverters 0 08-17-2011 08:53 PM
Univolt on a 1976 Caravanner wba1 Batteries, Univolts, Converters & Inverters 12 07-27-2011 08:13 PM
Hybrid fuse panel pgr32e Batteries, Univolts, Converters & Inverters 1 07-14-2011 10:56 PM
AC and DC Panel Meter Additions to WFCO RonMansfield Batteries, Univolts, Converters & Inverters 1 06-28-2011 01:51 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.