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Old 05-04-2015, 01:33 PM   #1
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Low voltage doesn't work, battery not charging

I have a 1985 34' Excella we just bought in Feb. Previous owner bought a 60 amp charger a while back and had been working fine. I installed a new 30 amp outlet at the farm where we have the trailer. When I plugged it in the first time, something popped/blew. Checked breaker, it tripped. So I reset it. Then, some of the breakers in the trailer tripped. I reset those. But the batter charger area under the front bench smelled of some electrical failure, and the battery has since lost its charge. I've reset all the breakers, and the A/C unit and wall outlets all work, but the low voltage things (after market LED lights, fridge, and furnace ignition), which are on the GFCI breaker, have all failed. The lights did dim for a while, which to me indicated battery depletion. I could really use some help trouble shooting. How do I test if the charger has blown? Anything else?

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I have a 1985 34' Excella we just bought in Feb. Previous owner bought a 60 amp charger a while back and had been working fine. I installed a new 30 amp outlet at the farm where we have the trailer. When I plugged it in the first time, something popped/blew. Checked breaker, it tripped. So I reset it. Then, some of the breakers in the trailer tripped. I reset those. But the batter charger area under the front bench smelled of some electrical failure, and the battery has since lost its charge. I've reset all the breakers, and the A/C unit and wall outlets all work, but the low voltage things (after market LED lights, fridge, and furnace ignition), which are on the GFCI breaker, have all failed. The lights did dim for a while, which to me indicated battery depletion. I could really use some help trouble shooting. How do I test if the charger has blown? Anything else?

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Hopefully your new 30 amp outlet is a 3-wire 120VAC and NOT a 240VAC 3-wire outlet that most electricians will install unless given VERY SPECIFIC instruction not to do so!!!!
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Old 05-04-2015, 04:27 PM   #3
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Hmmm...Well, I was the electrician (read, guy that did the electrical work, decidedly NOT an electrician...) But the a/c and wall outlets work fine, so could that be it? And, I guess if it is a 240 then have I likely blown the charger?
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Put your multi-meter on it and check your voltage @ your 30amp receptacle.
Hopefully you haven't fried anything, but if you smelled electrics burning....ahh, I don't like to be the bearer of bad news.
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Old 05-05-2015, 11:28 PM   #5
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you will need a new 'converter'. It converts AC to DC to run the trailer 12VDC and also charge/maintain your battery(ies)... There are several options available.
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Old 05-07-2015, 07:23 AM   #6
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Thanks y'all! I'll have to find a multimeter and check it out, but I'm fearing the same… Better to buy that converter somewhere other than an airstream dealer?
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Old 05-07-2015, 07:32 AM   #8
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Also, I know my plug is a 120 5V AC, only for RVs. So that's good. But how do I ensure that I don't fry my new converter? I'm not sure why there was such a jolt when I first plugged it in, and why that would be different than all the other plugs the previous owners used, but maybe y'all have thoughts on that...
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Old 05-07-2015, 08:03 AM   #10
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Did you plug it in with the circuit breaker on?
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Old 05-07-2015, 09:48 AM   #11
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Describe what you did to install the 30 amp outlet.
Did you install a new breaker in the power panel to provide power to the new outlet?
Is it a single pole breaker? Or double pole?
How many wires are connected to the breaker? What color?
Where is the white wire connected in the power panel?
Did you wire the RV. Receptacle correctly? Most indicate where the white and black wire connect.
Can you post pics of both the power panel that provides the power to the RV receptacle along with the panel in the coach?


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Old 05-07-2015, 04:55 PM   #12
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Dang. I wish I had seen this post before I left the farm, where there airstream is. I won't be up there untill Wednesday next week, but I can describe some things in words in the meantime.

I installed double pole 30 amp breaker in a vacant spot in the panel. I ran, through conduit, 10 gauge wire from the breaker to the weather protected outlet. It was a slim breaker, so I need to add some fillers, but I did take a picture of that and send to my electrician, and he said it was fine. There's a piece of metal on the back of those breakers that disallows you from installing it in a single breaker spot, so that it spans two for the double pole. My electrician, at least the electrician that I got advice from and who gave me the piece of 10 gauge wire, said it didn't matter whether I used white or black to either of the polls. I connected the ground wire to the ground panel in the panel box and ground spot on the socket.

I did not wire the trailer. We bought it in February and it was all ready to roll, having been used by a family for about two years.

It seems that I've wired correctly, because all my wall outlets work properly, and the air-conditioner works. But, of course, we have some pause here because of the converter possibly being fried.

Anyway, if any of that is helpful, great, otherwise I will take some pictures when I get back up there.
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It sounds to me like you connected both wires (white and black) to the circuit breaker. Which means you have 240 volts to the coach.
The white wire in the power panel should be connected to the NEUTRAL buss NOT THE CIRCUIT BREAKER! Only one pole of the circuit breaker is used. The BLACK wire should connect to the circuit breaker.
The RV receptacle is labelled as to where the black and white wires go.
How did you test the outlets in the coach?
If what I described is what you did. Then the converter was exposed to 240 volts. If you have an air conditioner.
DON'T TURN IT ON UNTIL YOU GET THE PROBLEM RESOLVED.


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