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05-22-2017, 11:46 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2017 19' Flying Cloud
Seven Devils
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 11
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Lifeline Battery
I own a 2016 19' Flying Cloud and have gone through 2 sets of Interstate Batteries. Is there anyone who is familiar with the Lifeline family of batteries and if so are they suitable for my 30amp flying cloud and what experience have you had with them.
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05-22-2017, 12:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,052
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I can't answer your questions regarding the lifelines, but I'd be curious toe know why you went through two sets of interstates in a year and a half. Did you boil the batteries dry with the single stage charger, or leave them for too long and discharged them beyond their ability to recover?
Mike
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05-22-2017, 03:51 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
KW
, Ontario
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 996
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What type of interstate batteries did you go through? What is your maintenance on them? What type of charger do you have?
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05-22-2017, 05:15 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 279
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My Bambi has two Lifeline GPL-4CT 225 amp hour batteries and a PD4655 converter/charger. They're mounted inside, underneath the dinette seat.
We can go 4+ days with this setup depending on fan use.
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05-22-2017, 06:37 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,024
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmichaud6489
I own a 2016 19' Flying Cloud and have gone through 2 sets of Interstate Batteries. Is there anyone who is familiar with the Lifeline family of batteries and if so are they suitable for my 30amp flying cloud and what experience have you had with them.
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Interstates are decent batteries, not the best but ok. Most problems arise from frying the batteries like mentioned above. Change out the single stage converter/charger for a multi stage one that turns off when batteries are fully charged. This is located below your fuse/breaker box, part of the same set up. One done you'll get some longevity out of these batteries rather than spending many $$$$ on Trojan or other batteries.
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Joe
Venice, FL
2016 FC 25RTB
TAC FL-47
2018 Nissan Titan XD Cummins Diesel
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05-22-2017, 08:14 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 19' Flying Cloud
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 103
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I have a 2016 Flying Cloud 19 as well. I lost my first set of batteries due to my lack of knowledge (ignorance) about how to properly maintain them. Interstate replaced them for free. I went ahead and upgraded to the 6v lifelines and the PD4655 converter. All is well. In the process I learned more about batteries and feel confident that I could have successfully maintained the Interstate batteries with the stock single stage converter.
The lifelines are doing fine and do provide quite a bit more Amp hours than the interstates.
Whatever you decide to do, make sure you learn how the system works and how to maintain the batteries. Read, read, read. They are not plug and play like in a car, you have to know how to monitor and maintain.
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05-23-2017, 02:17 PM
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,166
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Lewster, who is a Master Mechanic and posts to the Forums regularly, is a Lifeline dealer and will make you a good deal, delivered. I bought a pair from him several years ago and was completely pleased.
Pat
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05-23-2017, 03:08 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 712
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Well,if you replace your stock interstate batteries with the six volt lifelines do you have to re-locate them or can they be put in the same battery box outside
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The Colonel and Southern Belle
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05-23-2017, 04:24 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 19' Flying Cloud
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 103
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Colonel
Well,if you replace your stock interstate batteries with the six volt lifelines do you have to re-locate them or can they be put in the same battery box outside
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I asked the same question... Lewster said that that you can put them in the battery box but you will want to remove the plastic insert tray... He removes it, anyway. He also suggested getting a steel plate, with a hole in it, to put between the wing nut and the batteries. As of yet, i have not removed my tray, and the batteries don't quite sit all the way down. Also, the threaded post doesn't have enough length to fit the wing nut with the tray in place. I can still close the door, however.
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05-23-2017, 05:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 712
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Thx, if you can send me a photo. It'll go into the planning phase.
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The Colonel and Southern Belle
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05-23-2017, 05:23 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 712
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Anyone have any experience with the universal are other brands of AGM batteries
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The Colonel and Southern Belle
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05-23-2017, 05:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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Most deep cycle batteries require nigher voltages than what the stock Airstream converter/charger can provide. Upgrade your converter/charger to a multistage unit before purchasing new batteries otherwise you are left in the same boat.
Kelvin
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2008 Classic 25fb "Silver Mistress"
2015 Ram 2500 6.7L Cummins. Crew Cab, 4x4, Silver
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05-23-2017, 05:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 712
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Thx, I've got the pd4655, so that part is ready
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The Colonel and Southern Belle
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05-23-2017, 05:56 PM
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Free Range Human
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Haines
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 736
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmichaud6489
I own a 2016 19' Flying Cloud and have gone through 2 sets of Interstate Batteries. Is there anyone who is familiar with the Lifeline family of batteries and if so are they suitable for my 30amp flying cloud and what experience have you had with them.
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Do you know why you're going through batteries?
My suspicion it's not the batteries, but rather leaving them in an uncharged state too long, or leaving them charging without having a smart charger that goes to a float charge once the batteries are at 100%
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05-23-2017, 05:58 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Colorado Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 125
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We upgraded our Interstate factory batteries to Lifeline GPL-24T's in August of 2013. After hundreds of nights of use, many in boondock locations, as well as numerous night without shore power in parking lots and rest stops, the Lifelines are going strong.
We do watch to make sure that they are not overly discharged. We also have a solar system that is active when the AS is in storage, and we have also upgraded the charger/converter to a PD4655.
My son also has a 2013 Airstream with factory Lifelines and Factory solar, and his Lifelines are doing great despite the fact that on two occasions the Lifelines were totally discharged due to inadvertent trickle charge disconnect. After a few days with his PD4655 setup, the Lifelines are functioning well.
So based on our 3.5 years experience, the Lifeline GPL-24T, Solar, and PD4655 combination have served us well.
Best wishes on your decision.
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05-23-2017, 06:08 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,333
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In m y 2007 Safari the Interstates lasted seven years. In my 2014, they are still fine in their fourth year. And we boondock a lot.
I'm not saying I won't go with an AGM when these die, but don't just throw out working batteries - use them till they die and then make a change if you want to.
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2014 25' Flying Cloud Rear Twin
2019 Ford Expedition Platinum
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05-24-2017, 06:25 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2017 19' Flying Cloud
Seven Devils
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caffeinated
I can't answer your questions regarding the lifelines, but I'd be curious toe know why you went through two sets of interstates in a year and a half. Did you boil the batteries dry with the single stage charger, or leave them for too long and discharged them beyond their ability to recover?
Mike
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Just pure ignorance and being new at all of this. But learning a lot as I go along.
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05-24-2017, 06:31 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2017 19' Flying Cloud
Seven Devils
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by amaier7771
We upgraded our Interstate factory batteries to Lifeline GPL-24T's in August of 2013. After hundreds of nights of use, many in boondock locations, as well as numerous night without shore power in parking lots and rest stops, the Lifelines are going strong.
We do watch to make sure that they are not overly discharged. We also have a solar system that is active when the AS is in storage, and we have also upgraded the charger/converter to a PD4655.
My son also has a 2013 Airstream with factory Lifelines and Factory solar, and his Lifelines are doing great despite the fact that on two occasions the Lifelines were totally discharged due to inadvertent trickle charge disconnect. After a few days with his PD4655 setup, the Lifelines are functioning well.
So based on our 3.5 years experience, the Lifeline GPL-24T, Solar, and PD4655 combination have served us well.
Best wishes on your decision.
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This is the route I am inclined to take. Thanks for taking the time.
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05-24-2017, 06:34 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2017 19' Flying Cloud
Seven Devils
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 11
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It is my understanding in talking to both airstream and lifeline, they will fit nice
Y.
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05-24-2017, 06:36 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2017 19' Flying Cloud
Seven Devils
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 11
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How do I get in touch with Lewster
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