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Old 07-15-2015, 04:12 PM   #71
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Old 07-19-2015, 04:06 PM   #72
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Thanks so much to MSMOTO for the advice and wonderful pictures. You recommend the PowerMax PM4B-60 from Bestconverter.com called a Boondocker. Others elsewhere have spoken well of the Progressive Dynamics PD9245 and the corresponding higher amp version. What are your or our other forum commentators thoughts comparing these two.

I currently have a MagneTek TU-750-6 that may be original to my 1990 Excel 29, and works well but hums loudly and causes the battery to lose water over a month, so I'm ready to upgrade. Your thoughts on comparing the Power Max vs. the Progressive Dynamics?
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Old 07-19-2015, 08:08 PM   #73
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Thanks so much to MSMOTO for the advice and wonderful pictures. You recommend the PowerMax PM4B-60 from Bestconverter.com called a Boondocker. Others elsewhere have spoken well of the Progressive Dynamics PD9245 and the corresponding higher amp version. What are your or our other forum commentators thoughts comparing these two.

I currently have a MagneTek TU-750-6 that may be original to my 1990 Excel 29, and works well but hums loudly and causes the battery to lose water over a month, so I'm ready to upgrade. Your thoughts on comparing the Power Max vs. the Progressive Dynamics?
EASY!!!

One is made in China (Boondocker) and one is made in Michigan (Progressive Dynamics) . Take your pick, but I prefer to keep my dollars in the US whenever possible.....all things being equal.
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Old 07-19-2015, 08:23 PM   #74
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I recently installed a PD 6455. With the advice and assistance of several folks here it was a relatively easy and straight forward swap. And yes it was a huge plus that it is manufactured in the USA. That is getting harder and harder to find these days and almost impossible with electronics.
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Old 07-19-2015, 08:30 PM   #75
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After about nine months with the Boondocker

I installed the Boondocker in October of last year, and when I am at home, plugged into shore power full time.

One thing I have noticed is the batteries do not use water. I check these before every trip, suspect I may have added less than one cup of distilled water total to the two batteries since installation. Thus, I have concluded something must be going well....
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I recently installed a PD 6455. With the advice and assistance of several folks here it was a relatively easy and straight forward swap. And yes it was a huge plus that it is manufactured in the USA. That is getting harder and harder to find these days and almost impossible with electronics.
I agree I installed a PD4655. The thing is, many products that are thought to be American are partially so. I just bought an F150 Thursday. I found out yesterday that the ONLY full-sized pickup on the built in America list is a Toyota! It has to do with less than 75% parts development in USA. Me thinks it is the electronics but I dunno.
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Yup, assembled in America is basically it. And if you are lucky, that assembly means it was soldered here too. But in most cases, all your transistors and boards and stuff come from oversea's these days. So really, how much of it is made in America.
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There still are companies out there that build their own boards, soldering included........ even if they must source certain components from abroad that are no longer made here.

Firms like Magnum, HWH, Blue Sky, Progressive Dynamics, Dinosaur Electronics (control boards) and others that I can't think of at the moment.

I've been to many of them, either for technical training or just to look around. Impressive operations with robot assemblers, automatic soldering conveyors and complete testing equipment and repair facilities.......very integrated operations.

Try to get a Chinese inverter or converter repaired! These companies are strictly marketing firms. No techs, parts or ability to repair anything.

I'll stay with the US companies wherever possible, thanks.


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I have my 2015 International Serenity 30' in for some warranty work just before the one year warranty expires. I had asked them to install the Progressive Dynamics PD 4655 (I am not real comfortable with electronic installs) while it is in the shop. They called today and stated that the Progressive Dynamics PD 4655 is not compatible with a 50 amp trailer, only for 30 amp, and they are recommending the Parallax 55TCRU which is a 55 Amp converter/charger with Temperature Compensation, BUT NOT a multi-stage converter which is what I was looking for. I called Best Converter and they stated that the PD 4655 is definitely 50 amp compatible and that they would NOT recommend the Parallax unit. I am so confused. I am looking for something that I can leave plugged in for long periods of time keep the batteries charged without "cooking them" and is AGM compatible when I eventually upgrade. The dealer/service dept. is a popular dealer often mentioned on this forum in a positive light. Any recommendations?
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Sounds like the dealership was pushing the product they want to sell. Might be time to find a new repair facility.
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Old 09-15-2015, 04:42 PM   #81
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That is what I thought. They called me while I was on the road. By the time I got home and called Best Converter, the Service Dept. was closed. I sent them an email and asked them to call me tomorrow. A bit disappointing as they are one of the major Airstream dealerships in the nation.
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While you definitely can use the PD 4655, it is an easier swap with the PD 9260, which is a deck mount unit. You (they) would also need to secure the DC fuse block as well.

Definitely NOT rocket science, but your dealer might not be capable of thinking just a bit outside the box on this one.


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I own a 2015 Flying Cloud. I am not going to attempt to replace the converter myself. I purchased a new converter from Amazon.com and plan to take it to an Airstream dealer for installation. Can you tell me how long it should take to install the converter? I want to make sure that I am not being overcharged.
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I own a 2015 Flying Cloud. I am not going to attempt to replace the converter myself. I purchased a new converter from Amazon.com and plan to take it to an Airstream dealer for installation. Can you tell me how long it should take to install the converter? I want to make sure that I am not being overcharged.


If you canít trust them to treat you fairly for this work, I suggest you go elsewhere. Have they done this upgrade before? I bet they have. Maybe have them quote you the numbers of hours in advance and decide whether you think thatís reasonable.
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