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Old 07-01-2009, 11:11 AM   #29
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Once again I thank all off you that responded to my need to know about generators. What a great group.

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Old 07-04-2009, 07:14 AM   #30
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If you like to boondock I would seriously consider buying an inverter which converts 12v DC to 110v AC. You can go cheap or very expensive for inverters. The nice thing about inverters is that you don't need to run the generator every time you want to watch TV or run the hair dryer. I only use my Honda EU2000i to recharge my batteries or to run the microwave. The inverter takes care of most AC needs.

I love my little Honda EU2000i. I've owned mine now for 6 years. I can hold a normal conversation right next to mine when in use. Amazing!
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Old 07-04-2009, 07:53 AM   #31
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Rich,

Someone who knows more than I on this subject will likely comment or correct me (I don't have a generator yet, just looking!) but the Honda 1000 and 2000 are both supposed to be capable of putting out 8 amps at 12vDC which to me sounds much more than a trickle charge & I would have thought that would charge batteries fine.

Maybe I'm missing something - be interested to see what others say.


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Old 07-04-2009, 08:09 AM   #32
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Rich,

Someone who knows more than I on this subject will likely comment or correct me (I don't have a generator yet, just looking!) but the Honda 1000 and 2000 are both supposed to be capable of putting out 8 amps at 12vDC which to me sounds much more than a trickle charge & I would have thought that would charge batteries fine.

Maybe I'm missing something - be interested to see what others say.


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For a deep cycle marine battery 8 amps is a very low charge, it would take 8-10 hours to bring an 80% discharged battery back up to full charge. That is a lot of generator time. Here is a website that has a lot of decent information on 12 volt systems and recharging.


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I have not connected the coach batteries directly to the the 2000 for charging, but it has charged the car battery in short order.

Running the 2000 for an hr. or so every couple days, with the coach plugged in keeps the Lifelines charged up very well.
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Old 07-05-2009, 06:33 AM   #34
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For a deep cycle marine battery 8 amps is a very low charge, it would take 8-10 hours to bring an 80% discharged battery back up to full charge. That is a lot of generator time. Here is a website that has a lot of decent information on 12 volt systems and recharging.


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Aaron, thanks for that explanation and the link! Brian.
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Aaron, What you say may be true. However, if you notice, Jitano, the person who started this thread lives in the same area that I do.
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I have decided to not purchase a generator. Was leaning toward a Honda 2000 but instead will be mounting a 110 Watt PV on the roof. Our needs while boondocking will be simple, lights (I am going to change to LED or at least lower watt bulbs),refrigerator and heat. I will make coffee on the stove with the old perk pot and will take pre ground coffee with us. All to say, the 110Watt should keep the batts charged. The only item I am leaning toward would be an inverter to charge up a lap top, or portable electric tools. What are the thoughts out there about size of inverter? I probably will only need one plug into the inverter.
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I have decided to not purchase a generator. Was leaning toward a Honda 2000 but instead will be mounting a 110 Watt PV on the roof. Our needs while boondocking will be simple, lights (I am going to change to LED or at least lower watt bulbs),refrigerator and heat. I will make coffee on the stove with the old perk pot and will take pre ground coffee with us. All to say, the 110Watt should keep the batts charged. The only item I am leaning toward would be an inverter to charge up a lap top, or portable electric tools. What are the thoughts out there about size of inverter? I probably will only need one plug into the inverter.
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I have decided to not purchase a generator. Was leaning toward a Honda 2000 but instead will be mounting a 110 Watt PV on the roof. Our needs while boondocking will be simple, lights (I am going to change to LED or at least lower watt bulbs),refrigerator and heat. I will make coffee on the stove with the old perk pot and will take pre ground coffee with us. All to say, the 110Watt should keep the batts charged. The only item I am leaning toward would be an inverter to charge up a lap top, or portable electric tools. What are the thoughts out there about size of inverter? I probably will only need one plug into the inverter.
For your needs I think that is a good idea. I bought a 1500watt Xantrex inverter at Costco a few years ago for about $75. It wires directly to the batteries and comes with two 110v plugs. I used one for a permanent plug further forward in my rig. I used an old three-prong extension cord and cut the end off and made an inverter only dual 110v plug. Works great for the laptop, satellite TV, and charging portable tools and cell phones.
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could you use the cig litter to put a car converter in and use it that way?
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I changed out the 4 reading light bulbs with LED lights from Superbrightleds.com in my Classic and would recommend this if you are planning to boondock with only the 120 watt solar panel. These lights are a little pricey, but draw only minimal current. The other benefit is the lights are extremely cool instead of burning hot which would also be better when not using the A/C.

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I changed out the 4 reading light bulbs with LED lights from Superbrightleds.com in my Classic and would recommend this if you are planning to boondock with only the 120 watt solar panel. These lights are a little pricey, but draw only minimal current. The other benefit is the lights are extremely cool instead of burning hot which would also be better when not using the A/C.

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I did the same thing and was happy with the results - not quite as bright as the halogens but adequate and I do like the reduced heat too.

I had to buy two different types of led bulbs for our reading lights,

The ones over the bed were "hockey puck lights" and for them, I needed led's with side connection pins.

The ones over the sofa are swivel lights and needed connection pins at the back of the led. I suspected - and it turned out to be so - that for these light fixtures, the pins on the led's as delivered would not be long enough to reach the socket before the led assembly would foul the metal reflector, so I had to solder on short extension wires - maybe 1/2."

It worked fine and so far, the led's do not come loose in the sockets while traveling as I feared they might!

I think that next, I will try replacing the automotive wedge bulbs in the three bulb fixture over the dinette with led's and then maybe try one of the fluorescents. I hope to ensure they are all the same colour temperature (warm white in my case) for consistency.

I do like led's !


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For the hockey puck style lights I used Superbright G4-WHP10-D warm white and for the drop down swivel lights I used their G4-WHP15-T warm white lights which required no soldering, but just plugged in.

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