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08-02-2013, 03:40 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2013 27' FB Classic
Clermont
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So I am having high voyage problems on my new 27 FB Classic. Getting readings of 16.2 - 20VDC
I dropped the trailer off at the dealer today and while discussing the problem, the technician indicated that the problem was most likely the "lower end" of the converter.
I inquired if I could replace the converter with a different make. The technician told me that we had to stick with the original converter because the entire 110v / 12 v would have to be rewired and new breaker panels installed. Our layout has the breakers / convertor beneath the pantry.
Any comments or recommendations?
Thanks
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08-02-2013, 03:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
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Warranty?
This should be warranty work, why pay a penny for anything? Let them replace the converter with the same. It is not the best available but it is more than adequate.
Larry
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08-02-2013, 03:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Olympia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tkowalyk
So I am having high voyage problems on my new 27 FB Classic. Getting readings of 16.2 - 20VDC
I dropped the trailer off at the dealer today and while discussing the problem, the technician indicated that the problem was most likely the "lower end" of the converter.
I inquired if I could replace the converter with a different make. The technician told me that we had to stick with the original converter because the entire 110v / 12 v would have to be rewired and new breaker panels installed. Our layout has the breakers / convertor beneath the pantry.
Any comments or recommendations?
Thanks
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Does yours look like this?
If so your tech doesn't know what he's talking about. I just installed a new converter. I used the same AC and DC panels. It involved 5 wires. 2 AC 2 DC and a ground. I now have a 4 stage charger that won't fry my batteries like the stock one.
Talk to Randy.
BestConverter - Converters, Inverters, Electrical Supplies, Electronics
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08-02-2013, 04:37 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2013 27' FB Classic
Clermont
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daveswenson
Does yours look like this?
If so your tech doesn't know what he's talking about. I just installed a new converter. I used the same AC and DC panels. It involved 5 wires. 2 AC 2 DC and a ground. I now have a 4 stage charger that won't fry my batteries like the stock one.
Talk to Randy.
BestConverter - Converters, Inverters, Electrical Supplies, Electronics
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It does look similar to this. I have 50 amp service. Does this matter?
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08-02-2013, 04:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Olympia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tkowalyk
It does look similar to this. I have 50 amp service. Does this matter?
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Nope.
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08-02-2013, 04:43 PM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daveswenson
Does yours look like this?
If so your tech doesn't know what he's talking about. I just installed a new converter. I used the same AC and DC panels. It involved 5 wires. 2 AC 2 DC and a ground. I now have a 4 stage charger that won't fry my batteries like the stock one.
Talk to Randy.
BestConverter - Converters, Inverters, Electrical Supplies, Electronics
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Dave has it exactly right IMO. Several forums members have posted about this same upgrade recently, and probably more have done it than have posted about it. The dealer doesn't want to hassle with a non-factory part, but they either aren't being honest with you about it or they're just unaware of the upgrade converter that fits into the stock power center.
If you don't want to fight about replacing the Parallax with a better converter right now (since they're going to push to use the "factory" part for warranty work) at least make a note of the information so you can upgrade it when it dies or boils batteries after the warranty.
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08-02-2013, 05:36 PM
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2012 28' International
Olympia
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In the tech's defense, it isn't as simple as a direct swap out. It requires a little (very little) customization.
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08-04-2013, 06:57 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2013 27' FB Classic
Clermont
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
Dave has it exactly right IMO. Several forums members have posted about this same upgrade recently, and probably more have done it than have posted about it. The dealer doesn't want to hassle with a non-factory part, but they either aren't being honest with you about it or they're just unaware of the upgrade converter that fits into the stock power center.
If you don't want to fight about replacing the Parallax with a better converter right now (since they're going to push to use the "factory" part for warranty work) at least make a note of the information so you can upgrade it when it dies or boils batteries after the warranty.
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What replacement brand / model would you recommend? I think I have a 55 or 60 amp convertor. I have AGM 27 batteries.
Thanks,
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08-04-2013, 08:18 PM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tkowalyk
What replacement brand / model would you recommend? I think I have a 55 or 60 amp convertor. I have AGM 27 batteries.
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I believe that the upgrade converter for modern "power center" installations is this one from BestConverter.
I recommend you call BestConverter and discuss it with them to make sure before you go throwing money around, I haven't personally dealt with this, my converters are free-standing deck mount models.
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08-04-2013, 09:09 PM
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2012 28' International
Olympia
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+1 on what DKB said. Talk to Randy at Best Converters.
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08-06-2013, 04:17 PM
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2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
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Ultra III
I just installed the Ultra III upgrade from BestConverter for peace of mind. It is a simple install but it does take longer than they suggest as getting everything hooked up while down on the floor is a bit of a physical challenge. Nevertheless, no modifications are required so it is a well thought out upgrade.
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08-06-2013, 05:14 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2013 27' FB Classic
Clermont
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lsbrodsky
I just installed the Ultra III upgrade from BestConverter for peace of mind. It is a simple install but it does take longer than they suggest as getting everything hooked up while down on the floor is a bit of a physical challenge. Nevertheless, no modifications are required so it is a well thought out upgrade.
Larry
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Do you have any Photos?
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08-06-2013, 05:22 PM
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2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
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Bestconverter.com has good photos on their website so I did not take any.
Larry
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08-06-2013, 06:49 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2013 27' FB Classic
Clermont
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lsbrodsky
Bestconverter.com has good photos on their website so I did not take any.
Larry
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Is your convertor mounted under the breaker panel in the open or enclosed?
Thanks
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08-07-2013, 03:34 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
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The fuse board and the lower portion of the converter are replaced, then the existing front panel is reattached. so it looks just like what was there, but the guts are new.
Larry
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08-07-2013, 05:56 AM
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1995 30' Excella
Bowie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
I believe that the upgrade converter for modern "power center" installations is this one from BestConverter.
I recommend you call BestConverter and discuss it with them to make sure before you go throwing money around, I haven't personally dealt with this, my converters are free-standing deck mount models.
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You can also put a 45 or 60 amp PD92xx converter in where the old "guts" used to be - this is what I did on my B190, and it worked perfectly. There are lots of options; as you said BestConveter.com will help figure it out.
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