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Old 03-22-2014, 06:23 PM   #15
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Everything seems to work fine now with the two new batteries.
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Old 03-23-2014, 12:09 AM   #16
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mstephens: "Someone in this thread recommended that when on shore power, put the red light inside the door in STORE position. I just tried it. The red light remains on no matter if selecting STORE position or not. (Yes, it works fine when not on shore power. )"

The red light will stay on either USE or STORE position, but the switch controls a relay that will disconnect your batteries from everything in the trailer (except propane detector) when you select STORE. I don't know what the red light means, I'll have to look in the manual.

Most importantly when the relay is in the STORE position, the "dumb" converter cannot charge the batteries, which is to say overcharge them and reduce their lifespan drastically if you are plugged into external power for long periods, such as in storage.

You don't need another battery cut-off switch, that's what this relay does.

Among the long term nice-to-haves, you may think of a basic solar system for quiet camping without a generator, and to keep the batteries charged when in (outdoor) storage. When (and only when) the present "dumb" converter finally quits a "smart" converter may be in order.

Hey, we have the same FC 25 as you and couldn't be happier with it. Have been thinking of a Durango SUV 3.6 with 8-speed to replace a car and a pickup. I was impressed with your very short test prior to overheating. But I won't bring that up again.
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Old 03-23-2014, 09:00 AM   #17
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Dkottum,

I am not understanding your comment "if you are plugged into external power for long periods, such as in storage." My storage unit has a regular house outlet(shore power) that I plugged into thinking that the converter would keep my batteries topped off. That was not the case! When I returned not only was the battery not charged but the propane detector was beeping and continues to beep whether the relay is put in Store or Use position.

We have never charged the battery with a battery charger while hooked up to shore power. Any thoughts on this are appreciated.
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Old 03-23-2014, 09:14 AM   #18
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ljsigman,
Two possibilities are:
No power at shore outlet.
Trailer is in storage mode. Therefore batteries are disconnected from everything.
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Old 03-23-2014, 09:28 AM   #19
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Our use of battery is minimal so it's not unusual for me to replace these. Our trailer has reached its 10th season of use and I think I'm on my third set of batteries. As noted by others the converters in the trailers will cook the batteries and when the trailer was home in the drive, I used to leave it plugged in. That boiled out the batteries and when they finally failed I realized that they were low on liquid. From that point on I have done a better job in checking the liquid levels and as noted I don't leave the trailer plugged in for an excessive period of time when we are not using it.

As far as type of batteries, I'm a believer in buying what is the best value for how you use them. In my case it is so minimal, I purchase house branded deep cycle batteries from various outlets. I get about 3 years of use from them which is fine for me.

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There is power! We use the same outlet for other things with no problems!
Any time you are connected to shore power the relay automatically trips to USE so......
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Jack,

Our battery is new, purchased early fall of 2013 and requires no liquid. Like you our battery use is minimal as we always stay at parks with full hookups. We have a 2010 16' International Serenity! We call it our Bead and Breakfast!
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Old 03-24-2014, 12:21 AM   #22
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There is power! We use the same outlet for other things with no problems!
Any time you are connected to shore power the relay automatically trips to USE so......
When plugged to external power, you can isolate and protect your batteries from the constant too-high charging voltage the Airstream converter supplies by selecting STORE on the Battery Disconnect panel. The propane detector is not disconnected, takes some current because I think it has a tiny heater in it. So you need to switch to USE position from time to time, or much better to use an external "smart" battery charger.

The relay should not automatically return to USE and probably doesn't. You would need a voltmeter checking the battery charging voltage to know the batteries are disconnected, the converter will power everything else in the trailer. That is, you will have interior lights etc. in USE or STORE if plugged into external power.

If your only need for external power is Airstream battery charging, I would not leave it plugged in. You will shorten the life of the converter plugged in constantly. Get an external "smart" charger or a $olar installation.
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