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05-13-2015, 07:53 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
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AGM vs LED
What will give you more bang for your buck, switching out all your incandescent bulbs to LEDs or switching the wet cell batteries to AGMs?
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05-13-2015, 08:08 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 27' Overlander
Denver
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 768
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Led
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05-13-2015, 08:14 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Led
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05-13-2015, 08:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Sovereign
1979 23' Safari
Wayland
, New York
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,632
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LED's. Similar size AGM vs wet cell will have about the same amp hour rating, but the AGM you can discharge to about 80% discharge, a flooded cell can be discharged to about 50%, based on safety of battery life for both. So a similar size battery with 100AH rating, you'll get 30% more AH. LED's are about 80% more efficient than halogen and incandescent bulbs. So those 10-20 watt halogen bulbs become 1.5-3 watt led bulbs. So you're trading off 30% extra battery capacity for 80% less draw by the lights.
This is looking at the lights only perspecrtive, it doesn't take into account extra 30% power the AGM will get you for running the fridge, furnace, or other 12v loads.
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05-13-2015, 08:34 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,190
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Led
But I got seven years out of my Optima AGMs, and didn't have to build another vented battery compartment to place a second batt.
I don't use the trailer lights much. and I spend most of my waking hours out side. I have been using solar powered LED garden lights. Zero drain on my house batts. For me it's enough light. Use them inside and out.
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05-13-2015, 10:37 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' FB International
2007 20' Safari SE
2005 19' Safari
Qualicum Beach
, British Columbia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,096
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Led's
George
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05-13-2015, 11:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
, *** Big Sky Country ***Western Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,860
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LEDs are MUCH less expensive ...
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05-13-2015, 11:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 25' Tradewind
Metro Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,524
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If the majority of your usage is lighting, you're much better off with LEDs. If your lighting use is slight but you're running the furnace blower and a couple CPAP machines quite a bit, AGMs could conceivably be a better deal.
Or do both.
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05-14-2015, 02:59 AM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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LED's then upgrade to the AGM's when the time comes.
Aaron
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05-14-2015, 06:00 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
, Kentucky
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 898
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LED, but AGM is maintenance free, to a large degree and as has been stated before, ability to deep cycle the AGM.
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05-14-2015, 06:25 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1988 Argosy 32
Lomita
, California
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 181
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LED's are low cost and Quick to put in and cut demand on the system.
Before AMG install a 4 stage charge controler is a must if the AMG's are to last.
Best is a Pure sine wave Inverter charger that output's 120 Volts AC.
then add 200-400 Wats of Solar to finish system mine has run 4+ years.
The best webb sight is A&M solar, read all of it before you start.
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05-14-2015, 06:59 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,708
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I opted to do ALL OF IT at one time with my new Classic. All of the OE lighting is LED (except for the Baraldi range hood -- for which I have already replaced the halogen bulbs). I added the Magnum MSH inverter...which has a highly sophisticated inverter/charger set-up, as well as a 600W AM Solar package. 4 Lifeline 6V AGM batteries which are INSIDE the trailer. Granted, a fair expense, but no trade-offs for off the grid trailering. Also, no worries about battery overcharging with a high-quality system. For dire straits or A/C, I have a Honda EU3000i Handi.
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05-14-2015, 07:10 AM
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Rivet Master
2010 28' Flying Cloud
Lower Alabama
, USA
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 658
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LEDs as first step.
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"If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you never tried before!"
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Southeastern Camping Unit WBCCI #5033
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05-14-2015, 07:29 AM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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I thought AGM's typically had less amp hours for the same size as their wet cell counter parts. This has been my experience.
Also, LED's first.
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