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Old 04-01-2010, 06:47 PM   #1
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Well I just picked up the box of parts I ordered. I am replacing the manual single switch with three, yup three magnetic latching relays. My two current batteries are at the end of their lives. I am adding a third battery at this this time. I have to remove the couch to re-arrange the mess under there to make room for the third battery box.
I am going to have to vent it through the floor and belly pan.
After all this I will be installing two additional solar panels, a new controller and display panel.
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Old 04-01-2010, 06:57 PM   #2
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I am going to have to vent it through the floor and belly pan.
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Maybe I am not thinking about it correctly, but I thought the reason a battery needed to be vented is to allow hydrogen produced by charging to to dissipate. Doesn't it need to be vented upward or at least level?

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Old 04-01-2010, 07:21 PM   #3
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Maybe I am not thinking about it correctly, but I thought the reason a battery needed to be vented is to allow hydrogen produced by charging to to dissipate. Doesn't it need to be vented upward or at least level?

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The box has top and bottom vents. The bottom vent is for air in. The top is air/hydrogen out. It is a sealed box for use with any type of battery. I want a vent outside the trailer in case of acid spillage.
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hi michelle

why not just connect the 3rd box to the other 2 boxes up front...

they both vent OUTSIDE so connecting the 3rd box between them would provide 2 way air flow.

are you planned to use flooded wet cells or AGMs?

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Old 04-01-2010, 09:56 PM   #5
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hi michelle

why not just connect the 3rd box to the other 2 boxes up front...

they both vent OUTSIDE so connecting the 3rd box between them would provide 2 way air flow.

are you planned to use flooded wet cells or AGMs?

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I though of that but the only sealed box I could find locally has top and bottom venting. I want sealed in the cabin. Getting a Hose from one box to the center one to the other will be on the way of a lot of wiring. I could cut off and seal the bottom fitting hole. The wiring will be redone as well.

Most likely AGM's. They won't be Lifelines though. They are nearly $900 for three.
Trojan Sealed Group 27s. I know I don't really need venting but I want it. You never know when a battery is going to let go of something.
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yeah the venting is tricky with top/bottom holes.

the current/oem boxes are elevated, sitting on a section of 2x4 slightly above the floor.

the new box could be done this way too IF access to the bottom hole is really wanted.

with agms one vent tube seems adequate, connecting to either oem box, leading outside.

going DOWN through the subfloor and belly wrap seems extreme.
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the lifelines can be purchased with the 'concorde' label (exact same battery) for less money...

the difference is the warrany but the batteries are identical...
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IF u have not had the sofa OUT ever it'a a real treat.

-empty then pull the slide out drawer 1st.

-4-6 bolts into the subfloor and the sofa is FREE.

-PULL forward (past the charger/converter) then rotate the curb side slightly (i use furniture sliders UNDER the metal rails...

it' will fit OUT the door but that's 2 person job.

not sure if there is room in the 30/31 to leave it in front of the galley/open space...

take more pics!

and i hope that lpg gas hose/tank connector (in the photo) has nothing to do with the battery install...

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Old 04-02-2010, 06:13 PM   #7
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I will be removing the couch but not from the trailer. I will see if the battery box will sit up high enough to vent but low enough to allow someone to sit on the couch.
I looked at the concorde's. I could not find a G-27 equivlent. I did find one in their Solar line up. Those are probably even more.
The LP gas line is to fill the sealed batteries when the electrolyte gets low.
Actually, I am installing it on one side so I can drop in a 20 or 30 lb tank on one side.
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And good for you for having the ability to do all this yourself.

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the 'sun extender gp 27s agms are ~780$ for 3...

based on a quick search.

less than L/L but still a big gulp.

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the 'sun extender gp 27s agms are ~780$ for 3...

based on a quick search.

less than L/L but still a big gulp.

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I looked online for the lifelines, the Sun-Extender and the Trojan AGMs. All about $250 each. That will come in May. April's expense will be a new power panel. It is a good thing the tires are in good shape for my trip east this summer.
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Well this afternoon I pulled the sofa, stoop it on end outof the way and gutted the DC power system. Distribution remains intact for now.

The new solar controller is installed as well. It is rated for 45A. the old one 20. Adding the new panels will being the max possible current up to 18A.
I tried to upload pictures this evening just is not working.
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Michelle, I've missed your discription of your solar set up. What solar panels did you use, or what would you suggest for this year?
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Michelle, I've missed your discription of your solar set up. What solar panels did you use, or what would you suggest for this year?
I have Factory BP Solar 50+W. I am adding Sharp 80W in parallel with the factory panels since they have similar characteristics. The factory controller would have burned up under a full load. It is a tiny thing.
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Well this afternoon I pulled the sofa, stoop it on end outof the way and gutted the DC power system. Distribution remains intact for now.

The new solar controller is installed as well. It is rated for 45A. the old one 20. Adding the new panels will being the max possible current up to 18A.
I tried to upload pictures this evening just is not working.
Finally the pictures
First the couch by the door with my supervisor looking on.
second the current electrical mess.
Third the original solar controller.
Forth the new solar controller
Fifth the DC system gutted and a preview of the new battery box.
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