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05-03-2012, 03:28 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 27' Overlander
Amsterdam
, NH
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 32
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220V Univolt replacement
I want to replace my 110V Univolt with a 220V modern version, as I live in Europe. Any European version of the intelli-power 92 series, or any other ideas?
And yes I plan to renew my AC. The rest can all run off 220V. And can I keep my 110V fuse box?
All for a 1971 Overlander. All original besides new fridge. Thanks in advance, Mike
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05-03-2012, 05:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Is 220V common in Europe or it this a special need/desire of yours? I am not familiar with Europe's standard power.
Perry
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05-03-2012, 11:18 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 27' Overlander
Amsterdam
, NH
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perryg114
Is 220V common in Europe or it this a special need/desire of yours? I am not familiar with Europe's standard power.
Perry
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It's the standard
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05-03-2012, 11:45 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 27' Overlander
Amsterdam
, NH
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perryg114
Is 220V common in Europe or it this a special need/desire of yours? I am not familiar with Europe's standard power.
Perry
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It's the standard here.
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05-04-2012, 12:34 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
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I am sure there must be european "smart chargers" with 220 input. Do some googling on RV supply places there. For the Intellapower 92xx converter/chargers, I would contact them directly here in the states via email, to see if they have the 220 50 cycle version you need. You could use a stepdown transformer, but it is not a very good solution. I am sure 220 volt heater elements are available for your refrigerator, or if you are buying one there, it would be standard equipment.
The 120/240 volt breaker panel you have would work, but probably not be code legal in your country. I would probably change it out to a local one that fits your codes.
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05-04-2012, 01:26 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Commercial Member
1970 31' Sovereign
1978 31' Sovereign
1978 31' Sovereign
pinkenba
, QLD
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by idroba
I am sure there must be european "smart chargers" with 220 input. Do some googling on RV supply places there. For the Intellapower 92xx converter/chargers, I would contact them directly here in the states via email, to see if they have the 220 50 cycle version you need. You could use a stepdown transformer, but it is not a very good solution. I am sure 220 volt heater elements are available for your refrigerator, or if you are buying one there, it would be standard equipment.
The 120/240 volt breaker panel you have would work, but probably not be code legal in your country. I would probably change it out to a local one that fits your codes.
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Change your fuse breaker as the 110V version is double the amp rate of 220V and won't trip as quickly as required
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05-04-2012, 05:37 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 27' Overlander
Amsterdam
, NH
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 32
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Thanks for the feedback, I'll replace the circuit breaker. Googling for RV converter/charger didn't find me anything yet, so suggestions still welcome! What's in new European airstreams? Anyone?
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05-04-2012, 04:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1995 30' Excella
Bowie
, Maryland
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,345
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I take it yours was built for the North America market then imported to Europe?
I ask because I know Airstream makes European-spec'd campers now - we saw one on the assembly line when we did the tour last summer. They mentioned they're much lighter than ours (sigh), but I didn't think about the differences in electrical systems at the time.
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1995 Airstream Classic 30' Excella 1000
2014 Ram 2500 Crew Cab with Cummins 6.7L Diesel
Sold but not forgotten: 1991 Airstream B190
Sold: 2006 F-250 6.0L Powerstroke Supercab
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05-04-2012, 05:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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What are you going to do with the 120V appliances? They won't run on 220V.
Perry
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05-05-2012, 01:12 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 27' Overlander
Amsterdam
, NH
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 32
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Indeed my AS was imported, and I've replaced the fridge already, will do the same with AC.
Regards,
Mike
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05-05-2012, 06:05 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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I don't think you are going to have a problem then finding a 12V power supply. I would expect that any local RV dealer in Europe would have them for your power system. I expect there is a switch or a jumper to switch between 120V and 220V. They are all made in China so I would assume they would make them to accomodate the most common power systems.
Perry
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05-05-2012, 08:52 AM
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Maniacal Engineer
1971 25' Tradewind
Lopez Island
, Washington
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,244
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You may be able to find one in Europe, but bestconverter.com has several that accept 220V inputs, such as the Samlex units, Xantrex TrueCharge2, etc.
- Bart
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05-05-2012, 09:28 AM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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The furnace runs on 12V, and unless you have an AC/LP gas type of water heater, you don't need to worry about it either.
And as Barts mentioned, 220VAC to 12V DC converters are available here, but it would also be standard, off the shelf issue in Europe, too. Check the pricing there at some online places, since, unless they charge significantly more, the shipping overseas will be pricey.
I can't think of anything else that we have missed for a 1971 TT.
Oh, check to see if anyone has added an inverter (12V to 120V) to it though; that would need to be removed since it will be useless there.
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05-06-2012, 04:13 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 27' Overlander
Amsterdam
, NH
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 32
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Thanks very much again, found one too: Sargent EC328. Will compare with bestconverters too. Thanks barts
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05-16-2012, 10:08 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 27' Overlander
Amsterdam
, NH
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 32
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I'm still looking for a decent replacement. Found the Waeco PerfectCharge IU452A. Any Europeans experience with this?
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05-16-2012, 10:38 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Classic
kendal
, cumbria, UK
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 213
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Hi Mike,
I would recommend the Sterling 30amp Pro Digital charger - UK manufacturer. We've had one fitted for about four years with no issues. A really good quality charger.
We also have a Victron inverter fitted which was made in Holland - possibly they may make chargers.
John in the UK
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05-17-2012, 05:28 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Classic
kendal
, cumbria, UK
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 213
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Hi Mike,
You have some choice there.
We have experience of Mastervolt - had one of their chargers which lasted 10 years of full time use before it fizzled out. Could have been repaired, but with the advances in technology decided to replace with a more up to date model, so chose Sterling.
John in the UK
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05-17-2012, 05:46 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 27' Overlander
Amsterdam
, NH
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 32
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Hi John,
Can the Sterling also be connected directly to the 12V system (reusing the Univolt's fusepanel)? And what batteries do you use? I've got two simple ones now, one for general use (55Ah) and one for the electronic brakes (65Ah). And have you any experience with adding Solar Panels?
regards,
Mike
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05-17-2012, 07:20 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Classic
kendal
, cumbria, UK
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 213
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Hi again Mike,
Our Sterling charger is hard wired direct to the twin "Lifeline" original equipment AGM batteries via a large amperage gold plated fuse. Capacity of our 5.1/2 old batteries is 100aH each. The batteries are very expensive but we will replace with the same make and size when the time comes.
Yes, you can use the Univolt fuse panel - just remove the original charger and swap over the leads to your new charger.
We have fitted solar systems to various RV's over the years and had two factory fitted to our Airstream. Not sure what you want to know about solar systems but please ask. I would avoid cheap panels and go for a decent solar charge controller, for example Morningstar, which we have fitted. We managed for 6 weeks on solar power in Axel's back yard last summer in Holland.
I attach a link to the UK forum which shows pictures of our system :
UKAirstreamers.org - View topic - Living without Hook-ups
John
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