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Old 06-26-2010, 11:35 PM   #15
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OK so thanks to everyone that kept insisting that there was a breaker box in the trailer because today I found it!! It was in the outside storage compartment in the back under the license plate. I had to break in because the PO lost the key but there was the box! It has 2 breakers on it and a little clear lightbulb (very small) on top. Now here's the issue...what do I do now...still no 12v battery power. Is there a switch I am supposed to throw? What is that little light on top supposed to do? Again, plugged in to shore power all is AOK. Battery power there is absolutely nothing happening. Any ideas? Hey at least I found the breaker box!
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Old 06-26-2010, 11:57 PM   #16
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The 12v and 110 systems are completely seperate on 1963. As mentioned earlier by others, the switches by fans etc allowed you to either use the 12 volt motor on battery, or use city 110 power to power an inverter/converter that was located at the device (on the frame of the ceiling vent, etc).

There shouldn't be a switch. Do you have a volt meter? Can you confirm the battery has a 12v charge? Have you tried removing/cleaning/reattaching the other end of the ground wire to the shell? I suspect that either the ground from the wire you attached to the battery back to the shell is bad, or the main circuit breaker is bad. Look for one of these by the battery, might be under a cabinet by above the battery box. It is a circuit breaker that may be bad. You can always jumper the top to see if that solves the power issue then replace. Look in the attached picture, above the wires coming out the wall, you'll see two wires and a small plastic piece with 2 terminals, and 2 wires coming out of the wall. If that is bad, no power will get to the rest of the trailer.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:23 AM   #17
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OK we are getting somewhere. There are 3 wires to be connected to the battery comming out of the battery box; 2 orange and 1 green. The orange ones are connected as 1. Are they the pos or the neg? I located the breaker box but it seems to be fine if it is working at all. How would I know? When I am plugged in to AC nothing trips?
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:34 AM   #18
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to test the 110 AC plug something you know works into one of the interior outlets, a hair dryer, or lamp or something. 12 volt, Orange is all the 12 volt positive, the green is ground. I bet that green wire is all messed up, not on the end at your battery, but on the inside skin where they pop rivet the wire to the skin of the trailer, if it is even still attached. You'll find the Orange wire throughout the trailer is your 12 volt lights, fans, etc.
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Old 06-27-2010, 11:56 PM   #19
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thanks guys. Did a lot of exploration today and found that piece with two wires attached to two terminals coming out of the wall. Thay are all covered over with Zolatone but I pulled the wires out a little bit and both plastic wraps look white. If this what you are referring to and I think it is they must have changed wires and colors somewhere in that wall. I scratched them a little but could not get a 12v current tester to register on them.Lit up on the battery wires well so I know the tester and the battery are working. Still no 12v battery power working in the camper. I'm baffled
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Old 06-28-2010, 12:35 AM   #20
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Did you attach the two orange wires back to the positive terminal of the battery and the green to the negative terminal? If that has been done test the 12 volt orange wires at each light fixture (orane wire - positive) and ground to shell (exterior skin panel). If no power you probably have a broken wire or connector inside the skins. You may need to remove an inner skin panel near the battery to see if that green wire is disconnected or bad to the exterior skin panel. Try to think 1 step at a time in the wiring. Ground wire first then if it has continuity move to the two orange wires checking each one for voltage to a good ground! Hope this gets you on the right track. Ed
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I agree with Ed, but before that you might disconnect the 12v from the battery, and use use a wire wheel on a drill and clean off those terminals covered in zolatone and clean them, I bet the problem is there or closer to the battery. Were you testing each terminal on that little breaker with the ground probe back to the skin or to the battery itself? If the ground is bad to the trailer from the battery that would still not register 12v since a circuit is not complete. If you are using a volt meter, put it on continuity and test across the terminals and see that way. I think you are close to solving the problem, but do as Ed did and check at one of the lights too...
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Can you post a picture of the two "terminals " coming out of the wall ,not sure what you are describing but it sounds like it could be circuit breakers. I still think you most likely have a ground problem; as a start I would run a new ground wire. Make sure it is firmly attached to clean bare metal. The originals are just attached with rivet and they can be loose and not look it. There are two 12V circuits in your trailer and it just seems unlikely they are both bad.
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ok running a new ground wire is an obvious and intreresting suggestion. Certainly I had not thought of that before! Thanks! Could I run that ground wire directly off the battery neg terminal? I'll take the "terminal" pics today. Again thanks
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Sure can. Make it a clean connection and can be temporary until you get the issue resolved. If indeed you find it is the ground connection that at fault, you can run a more permanent one and do it right. Right now, you're just trying to isolate the problem.

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Old 06-29-2010, 11:10 AM   #25
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Got it thanks Brad. I'll be fishing in the San Joaquin river N Ca. this wknd. Not camping in my AS though
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Yessssss! 12v is operating!!!!! Took a new ground wire off the neg side of the battery and touched it to the skin for 2 seconds, got a great spark and all of a sudden heard the fan inside go on and a couple of lights shined bright.Beautiful! Another beautiful thing was that hum that all of you talk about. Yes it's my water regulator switching on for the first time! I'm sure it can get annoying as everyone reports but right now there is not a sweeter sound to my ears. The system has been down for over 33 years and just needed a kick in the butt. Took the temp grnd wire off and now everything is running like normal, including water pressure! Thanks to you all for your time, patience and great advise> All systems are GO! Now I'm just going to sit in my AS and figure some little things out but be smiling all the while I do!
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YEA!! Such good news. Glad you're dancing and smiling.

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WOOO HOOO!!!! Congrats on getting that solved. When you get a chance, snap us some photos of your trailer now that you're up and running!
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