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Old 05-14-2006, 08:34 PM   #15
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Hi Gang,

I had a Yamaha iS2400 that got us thru 10 days of post Wilma black-out. It ran fine and did a good job of running a portable room air conditioner and a few light circuits. As a companion to the trailer, I would go with a propane powered model.

I have just finished converting an Onan Marquis 7000 to propane. What a difference over gasoline. No noxious exhaust fumes, no varnishing of the carb or spark plugs, and the best.....run it with 2 LP tanks and an auto-change over regulator and you never have to do a hot re-fuel .
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Old 05-16-2006, 10:20 AM   #16
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Thanks all,

I ended up buying the two Hondas. I saw a demo, and was sold. I appreciate all the replies, I was dead set on the Yamaha until I got everybodyís advice, so it is nice to have a network like this. You guys that run the Hondaís in parallel, can I run them in econo mode with the AC kicking on? Will the engine ramp up enough to overcome the spike in amps? Again thanks.
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Old 05-16-2006, 10:37 AM   #17
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I went with two Honda 2000's for a variety of reasons, but I think the most important is ease of handling.

It is very simple to link the two together. Below are some pics of a pigtail I made to join the two together - total cost about 50 bucks...
I assume that you are only showing part of your hookup here... the high-voltage wiring. Isn't there a low-voltage connection required to synchronize the two generators sine waves?
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Old 05-16-2006, 12:13 PM   #18
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I've been running a Nokita (from CostCo) 2500 W generator for a couple of years, but this last trip finally convinced me I need less noise. It's not bad, but I wouldn't run it in a campground after dark (and it always starts easy--one pull, usually).

I have been thinking Yamaha because the propane fuel mod is attractive--I've wound up leaving a gallon or two of gasoline in the Nokita for a year. That killed my GenRac, but the Nokita neve seems to notice but it always worries me (not enough to do the right thing, evidently ). Using propane would eliminate that concern, plus I'd be down to two fuels--propane and diesel.

Does anyone have experience with propane on the new Yamaha 2400?
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Zep - I wish you luck. I ordered one back at the end of March and not only have I not received it, I cannot get anyone there to respond with any delivery estimates. And they have not even answered the phone the last couple of days, so I have just about given up.

The problem is, I really want that unit!

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Zep - I wish you luck. I ordered one back at the end of March and not only have I not received it, I cannot get anyone there to respond with any delivery estimates. And they have not even answered the phone the last couple of days, so I have just about given up.

The problem is, I really want that unit!

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Old 05-17-2006, 12:23 PM   #21
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AC connection

Nice pics. I'm confused on the wiring for the connector. are you feeding both hots to the single hot terminal, 115 vac , or a 220vac arrangement?? thanks.
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Thanks all,

I ended up buying the two Hondas. can I run them in econo mode with the AC kicking on? Will the engine ramp up enough to overcome the spike in amps? Again thanks.
hi tavis76 and others....

negative, can't run 'em in eco mode while paired up.....for anything

this is somewhere in the print material.
basically they both need to be on the regular setting....during paired operation.

the primary reason to run both is a/c power needs anyway.

also they can be disconnected for single eco mode use quickly (like to just charge batteries) or for morning coffee/tv needs....

in eco mode one unit will power the smaller microwaves...
but it will ramp up to full speed when the micro kicks on....

if wanting to use just one genset in eco mode.....the parallel kit must be disconnected....

using power tools plugged directly into the genset...switch off eco mode...

even in standard mode they are pretty fuel thrifty....

and don't forget MIDGRADE gasoline (86 octane or above)

i've not had gumming issues a few folks reported,
but i use mine often,
occasionally put some techron in the fuel
and use mobile 1 full syn for lube.

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Old 05-17-2006, 02:34 PM   #23
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RedEagle - No, they have not hit my card. If they had, I'd be knocking on their door. I just really want that unit with the propane configuration. Perhaps their trouble is that everyone else does too. I just wish they would communicate.

Like you, I have the duramax and don't want to lug gasoline around.
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I'm assuming you made the purchase thru US Carburator. I emailed them over the weekend with a couple of questions/lead time and had a response Monday morning. They told me ~4 weeks. I still haven't made up my mind over the 2400/3000. I re-read Rich Carpenter's A/S Life article from the winter, but still weighing pros/cons. Weight, cost and I don't want to end up with a high priced battery charger. I don't like Yamaha's disclaimer that the 2400 will run most 13500 BTU A/C's. Will it run mine and on propane? Which one did you purchase and what were the factors you used in making your decision? I'm going to place an order soon to cash in on the rebate.
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even in standard mode they are pretty fuel thrifty....

and don't forget MIDGRADE gasoline (86 octane or above)

i've not had gumming issues a few folks reported,
but i use mine often,
occasionally put some techron in the fuel
and use mobile 1 full syn for lube.

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I've been looking at the Honda I'm curious when your runnning 2- 2000's how many hours are you able to run the AC unit before you run out of fuel? I've read in econo mode you get 15 hours but it sounds like that is not the case when the 13500 AC is pulling heavy load. and the LCD TV is playing a DVD.

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Before I converted mine to propane, I ran it for almost 6 days continuous after hurricane Frances. I got 8-9 hours between fuelings, running in Eco mode. I had full size fridge, kitchen and bath lights, plus 42" projection screen TV and DirecTV. I used a seperate 5KW that only ran when we needed to pump water.
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I've been looking at the Honda I'm curious when your runnning 2- 2000's how many hours are you able to run the AC unit before you run out of fuel? I've read in econo mode you get 15 hours but it sounds like that is not the case when the 13500 AC is pulling heavy load. and the LCD TV is playing a DVD.

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When we at the August Nascar Race last August I was running the pair all night to run the A/C. I never ran out so I would agee with Pick on the 7-8 hour range. I do leave mine in eco mode when running in parallel. They ramp up pretty quick when called on and other than when the A/C compressor is on they just idle at low speed.
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I do leave mine in eco mode when running in parallel. They ramp up pretty quick when called on and other than when the A/C compressor is on they just idle at low speed.
vajeep and others

that's interesting you'd paired them and used eco mode...
i just went my the instructions and never even tried this...

works ok for you? they don't continuously surge and compete?
that's what i was told would happen....

times....
on constant eco mode.....12-15 hours run time
on full with minimal loads...8-10 hours run time
on full with moderate load.... 6-8 hours run time...

so if you are getting 7-10 hours, in parallel they are probably not staying in the ecco range much....but still, paired and eco......coool.

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