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Old 04-03-2006, 01:26 PM   #15
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Yes!

The Yamaha 30iSEB will start and run the 15K Dometic Penguin AC/Heatpump. As I mentioned, the 15K Penguin uses exactly the same compressor and fan motor as the 13.5K unit, just larger condensor and evaporator coils and a slightly larger squirrelcage blower. The 15K has the same power requirements (ie wattage) as the 13.5K AC/Heatpump. Once either of these unit is up and running, the power requirement drops dramatically which is why a lower output genset sometimes works.

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Old 04-08-2006, 02:31 PM   #16
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I saw this one on ebay today. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
It's $1140 with free shipping. Plus Yamaha has a $100 rebate if you buy one in April or May. Bottom line is $1040 delivered. Now, where is that tax return money??
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Old 04-08-2006, 03:31 PM   #17
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We've been using our Yamaha 3000 for almost two years now and the only downside has been the 100+ pounds of weight! We utilize a folding ramp to push/pull it into the back of the TV. The unit is 'Extremely' quiet and efficient. It will power the AC and the refrigerator but will not run the micro/convection oven at the same time. If we had it to do all over again we would have purchased the two Honda 2000s with the connector cable. Just our two cents worth.
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Old 04-08-2006, 06:07 PM   #18
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Where did you find out about the $100 rebate? Do you have any details?
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Old 04-08-2006, 07:48 PM   #19
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Where did you find out about the $100 rebate? Do you have any details?
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Check: https://www.yamaha-motor.com/outdoor...summer_06.aspx
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Old 04-08-2006, 10:25 PM   #20
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We've been using our Yamaha 3000 for almost two years now and the only downside has been the 100+ pounds of weight! We utilize a folding ramp to push/pull it into the back of the TV. The unit is 'Extremely' quiet and efficient. It will power the AC and the refrigerator but will not run the micro/convection oven at the same time. If we had it to do all over again we would have purchased the two Honda 2000s with the connector cable. Just our two cents worth.
You can also use the new iS2400 Yamaha in pairs with the optional connection cable. An extra 800 watts!
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Old 04-09-2006, 01:57 PM   #21
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Hmm, the $100 rebate does make this tempting. However, I'd really like to get the propane/natural gas capable unit and it looks like the US Carb modded unit is the only supplier of this unit and their price is not near the eBay unit.

Argh!! What to do . . .
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:35 PM   #22
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:21 PM   #23
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I ordered one (EF2400iS) earlier this week and am eagerly awaiting delivery. I ordered propane/gas version in order not to have to fool around with gas while I am traveling - especially since my truck is diesel.

My AC is an 11,000 Btu so I think the gen will handle it ok. But Page and I don't find ourselves in hot places too much, anyway. We tend to head for the hills in the summer.
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On the verge of a purchase myself, so look forward to a post on how it worked out for you.

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Old 04-19-2006, 10:56 AM   #24
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Cam,

I'm still awaiting delivery. I called them on Monday and they said they had gotten backlogged but that they should ship mine in the next week. I'll be sure to report all the details. I also think I'll call back and ask about the $100 rebate too!

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I'm officially out of the hunt for this generator this year. I broke my leg recently, and all of the generator money is going into medical bills instead.

It will only get cheaper as time goes on, so I will keep my eyes open for deals like this in the future. In the meantime, looking forward to more reviews of this unit.
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Old 04-23-2006, 03:37 PM   #26
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Hello all:

I am sure you all have discussed the Honda 2000 vs the Yamaha here and on other threads, but...........after camping next to a rig where they ran the Yamaha for six hours so the kids could watch videos, or whatever.....get the Honda PLEASE. Finally I said it was time for wine and cheese and the guy said sure and turned the thing off, finally......

We were camping with a 180 water view on the bluffs. I just don't understand what camping is supposed to be anymore. Think I will go get a consultation, maybe the guy next door has a tutorial video I can watch while camping.

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Below are the specs for the Honda 2000 vs the Yamaha 2400

As you can see the noise levels are nearly identical. Additionally (not taking propane into account) the Yamaha has more max amps and watts. Of course the Yamaha is heavier than the Honda, which most likely comes from the larger engine (5.5hp vs 3.5). If you go propane on the Honda, it will also most likely have less capacity on LP, which I would think would also be less than the Yamaha in a simialr situation. Yes this is sligtly slanted in the Yamaha's favor, however both inverter generators are very good. In my case though, not wanting to port out the carb myself, the Yamaha would be the gen of choice for me when I get my tax refund. Still haven't decided if I would go with the 1000 or the 2400 yet since I most likely won't worry about the AC unit being needed......

FYI....the Yamaha 3000 and the Honda 3000 also have similar db ratings per the web spec sheets.


EU2000i Specifications
Engine 3.5 HP, Single Cylinder, Overhead Cam, Air Cooled
Displacement 98.5 cc
AC Output 120V
2000W max.(16.7A)
1600W rated (13.3A)
Receptacles 20A 125V Duplex
NEMA Plug Number:
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DC Output 12V, 96W (8A)
Starting System Recoil
Fuel Tank Capacity 1.1 gallons
Run Time on One Tankful 4 hrs. @ rated load
15 hrs. @ 1/4 load
Dimensions (L x W x H) 20.1" x 11.4" x 16.7"
Noise Level 59 dB @ rated load
53 dB @ 1/4 load
Dry Weight 46.3 lbs.

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Type Brushless Inverter
Maximum AC Output 2400 watts
Rated AC Output 2000 watts
Rated / Maximum AC Current 16.7 / 20 amps @ 120V
Engine OHV, Air-Cooled, Four-Stroke, Single Cylinder
Displacement / HP 171cc / 5.5 hp
Overall Length 20.7"
Overall Width 16.5"
Overall Height 18.1"
Dry Weight 70 lbs.
Fuel Tank Capacity 1.6 gallons
Continuous Operation at 1/2 Rated Load Over 8.5 hrs.
Noise Level 53 - 58 dBA
Warranty 2 Years Limited Warranty
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Is there any power loss when operating on alternate fuel?
No, we have never had a single unit show a loss of power on alternate fuel. Though lower gallon-to-gallon in BTU content, sometimes they perform even better than running on gasoline (see also fuel consumption). The engine regulator we install has an external fuel mixture adjuster that can be turned with your fingers and can be fine-tuned to your elevation and to the fuel supply connected. That's why we include the Engine Hour/Tachometer Meter with every generator. You can watch the engines rpm output while turning the mixture adjuster for peak performance and high efficiency. This allows full control over the fuel mixture no matter what elevation. This is a big advantage that allows the engine to be reset at anytime. Engine do not use nearly the same fuel mixture in say Florida as they would in Colorado. Unlike operating on gasoline where the carburetor is a fixed jet and it can not be adjusted only replaced. Lean on alternative fuel is cool running, clean burning and efficient.


What is the fuel consumption of the generators on propane or natural gas?
This is the top question. The simplest answer is that the generators typically use about the same amount of propane(92,000) as they do gasoline; gallon to gallon. For natural gas one therm (100,000 btu) is about one gallon of gasoline (110,000 btu). The biggest mistake most "experts" make in opinionating that a propane or natural gas generator will lose power is based solely on these figures and not on any data they personally have. When figuring power output of any fuel the size of the engine has to be a significant factor of the equation. For instance, comparing a vehicle with a V8 engine to a generator with an 11hp generator attached can not be calculated the same. This topic is covered in detail on the Fuel Consumption page. Use the link on the left side of the page to access this further information

http://www.yamaha-propane-natural-gas-generators.com/faq's.htm#Is%20there%20any%20power%20loss%20when%2 0operating%20on%20alternate%20fuel
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