Yamaha 2800: will it run a 13.5k AC?

[gaylejoe]

Does anyone have this gen and does it really run a 13,500 btu a/c? I really like the size and the weight. I have a Yamaha 2400is that I run on propane but it's not enough to run the a/c. All the others are to big and way to heavy for me. I have an 07 25' FB.

[DKB_SATX]

I have a heavy Yamaha EF3000iSEB that does a great job running the AC, but demands some effort to put in the bed of the truck.

The light weight/run any AC option seems to be the paired 2000s (Yamaha, Honda or one of the knock-off brands.) If you go that route, someone will buy your 2400, probably for close to what one of the 2000s costs.

[JamuJoe]

I assume that the propane conversion of your Yamaha 2400is reduced the power such that it will not run your 13,500 A/C. I have that same generator (gasoline) and it handles our 13,500 A/C just fine. Good to note, as I was interested in the propane conversion.

[pmclemore]

I agree with JamuJoe: My 2400is will not run my 13500 ac on propane, but it will run just fine using gas. I guess it has to do with the extra btus gas brings to the party compared to propane.

Pat

[gaylejoe]

To be truthful, I have not tried to start my a/c with the 2400 since it only has 2000wts continuous. I didn't want to hurt the compressor of the a/c. Personally, I prefer the propane over gasoline. It is much cleaner.

The Yamaha 2800 seems to be a very nice compact unit weighing only 65lbs.

[JamuJoe]

The generator has overload protection, and the A/C has under-current protection, (I experienced both when trying out a Yamaha 2000) so I'm pretty comfortable about running the A/C on the 2400 without damage to either. (only about six hours run time so far, even the 53 - 60 dBA is a nuisance to my ears). Note, however, that Dometic recommends a 3.5KW generator for running the 13,500 BTU unit.

I also looked at the 2800, but couldn't go for the additional 10dBA sound level.

[Naper]

My Yamaha 2400 has no trouble running the 15,000 AC in our 27' Classic. I do however put the fridge and water heater on propane. I also looked at the 2800 but went for the 2400 due to the difference in db's

[texasbound]

Originally Posted by DKB_SATX

I have a heavy Yamaha EF3000iSEB that does a great job running the AC, but demands some effort to put in the bed of the truck.

The light weight/run any AC option seems to be the paired 2000s (Yamaha, Honda or one of the knock-off brands.) If you go that route, someone will buy your 2400, probably for close to what one of the 2000s costs.

Do you ramp it up into the truck, or just always use two people to lift it in?

I'm debating on getting this one.

Thanks,
Leo

[DKB_SATX]

Originally Posted by texasbound

Do you ramp it up into the truck, or just always use two people to lift it in?

I'm debating on getting this one.

Thanks,
Leo

So far my partner and I lift it together. I'm planning to get a hoist with a hand crank that goes in the receiver for solo loading.there are affordable ones that swivel and are rated for 2x the weight of the 3000.

[wolf146]

I have had the Yamaha 2800 for years and it runs the air conditioner in my 30 foot classic. I do put the refrigerator and water heater on gas when I run the air. wolf146

[Vitaminsea]

I have the Yamaha 2400 isHC. It's a quite and dependable generator. Did the gas conversion to propane. It can start up and run my 15k btu a/c. It's just by the skin if its teeth but it can start and run the unit. Everything else turned off. I ran it 8 hours a day in the desert sun at 4000 feet and it came out like a champ.

It's the 30 amp start up that the generator can do for maybe 30 seconds. That's the main difference from the 2400is. For a 13.5k unit you will be fine with a new Yamaha 2400ISHC.

[PaulAir]

Originally Posted by Vitaminsea

...For a 13.5k unit you will be fine with a new Yamaha 2400ISHC.

I assume it transitions the RPM to power the unit or is there a way to have the generator run full RPM and then turn on the A/C?

[Vitaminsea]

Yes, the generator automatically increases RPM with load. There are really no settings. Just an on or off switch and the choke. I run it for a minute then turn on the a/c. There are a few seconds that your hear the generator getting the load on and maybe will stop, then it kicks the rpm up and starts the unit. The a/c unit first starts the fan then starts the a/c about 20 seconds later. From my understanding, the a/c needs the most power in the start up period then uses much less power.

Make sure during the start up of a/c you have good batteries, generator running, and all the other electrical items off. After start up you need to be picky with adding the additional load items. My led lights and a fan works. Refrig and electric water heater on electric would put it into overload and the generator would protect itself by overload.

Hope that helps. And this is based on new equipment like a 2400ishc w/ propane and 2012 airstream using a 15k a/c.

[PaulAir]

Yes that helps. I forgot that the compressor has a delay in kicking in.
Earlier models of the 2400i had a switch to take it out of eco mode, which is missing on the version I just got. The 2800 has that switch. I'm thinking that they left of the switch, but the connections are still there. I need to check and the supplier is checking as well.
Tech support from Yamaha is severly lacking. They point you at Yamaha dealers, most of which have no generator experience.
I also need to separate the 120VAC to 12V converter with a disconnect.
After that along with adding solar, the generator would only be concerned with 120VAC circuits.

I'll post again if I find the eco mode disable circuit. I don't trust the brown out condition with the A/C kicking in and the delay for the generator to respond. A/Cs don't like that.

[r carl]

Originally Posted by Vitaminsea

Make sure during the start up of a/c you have good batteries, generator running, and all the other electrical items off. After start up you need to be picky with adding the additional load items. My led lights and a fan works. Refrig and electric water heater on electric would put it into overload and the generator would protect itself by overload.

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Why skimp on a generator?
Wouldnt a properly sized one be trouble free and last longer?
It seems to me my standard Honda EU3000is is as small as I
would want to go in the summer time. When my 25yr old
13k air con kicks in it initially puts a full load on the Honda engine.
I would not want less HP.

[featherbedder]

My A.S. is a1976 31ft I use honda EB5000, runs ac, microwave, reefer, toaster, plus other items all at once never a problem with ample elect. only one drawback is db also a little heavy but I pull A.S. with p.u.

[newroswell]

In case anyone is planning to buy a 2800 sight unheard, IT'S LOUD AS HELL. My Yamaha dealer hates that thing because it is labeled an RV generator by the Marketing Department, but is nothing more than a construction grade generator.

If you don't have an A/C built in the last few (3'sh) years (that already has a start capacitor), you can have one installed. That's not only good for your generator, but for the A/C compressor motor also.

[PaulAir]

Originally Posted by newroswell

If you don't have an A/C built in the last few (3'sh) years (that already has a start capacitor), you can have one installed. That's not only good for your generator, but for the A/C compressor motor also.

Do you have specs on the cap and how it should be wired in, or who would know?

[newroswell]

This will give you an idea of what's involved. A good dealer that is qualified to work on A/C's should have some experience doing this.

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