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Old 06-20-2008, 01:10 PM   #15
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I found these two at the Costco site

Costco - Whisper 100 900 Watt Wind Generator

Costco - Air X 400 Watt Wind Turbine
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Old 06-20-2008, 02:29 PM   #16
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The one downside to using wind or solar, is you usually don't have a means to store the energy (batteries) that is created. When the wind quits or it is dark, the energy stops.

We have 4~120 panels and 8~batteries and can run the 15k AC for almost 6 hours. We wouldn't be able to do that if I didn't have the batteries to store the energy.
Dwight has a very telling point. When we need solar the most is in the middle of the blooming blizzards endemic to Maine winters... no (significant) solar ergs available, then! That is when wind would be valuable for me -- but I'm running a furnace and a catalytic heater at that point and sucking the batteries dry. Under those conditions, many (most?) wind generators are feathering their blades to prevent overspeed damage so you aren't getting a whole heck of a lot of value out of that excess wind. I'd be in deep trouble unless I had access to shore power. So make that a power pole for me in winter - or at least a job site somewhere south of Atlanta...
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Old 06-20-2008, 02:45 PM   #17
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Solar comment

It is 2:38 p.m., overcast to the point that I cannot tell where the sun is right now AND the PulseTech 5 watt solar panel for the Everlast battery I pulled out of the Sovereign 5-6 months ago shows a constant charge. I checked the charger on the Sovereign and the two 100 watt panels and one 65 watt panel show charging through the Heliotrope 22B charger as charging the Trojan battery.

Where do people get the idea that solar panels don't put out energy when the sun is behind clouds? Sure, the same amount of power is not there as when the sky is clear but energy is there, overcast or not. I know that my AMSolar SunRunner system is an advanced system with 44 cells per panel and the charger is a boost charger but don't discount solar based on old systems.
OK Lewster, carry on with the argument.
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Old 06-20-2008, 02:59 PM   #18
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My first Safari had solar. I could have discharged batteries(2), and recharge fully on a cloudy day. Sure it took longer than direct sun, but still effective.
I bought the unit with solar already installed, I don't know the specs.
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Old 06-20-2008, 04:54 PM   #19
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It is 2:38 p.m., overcast to the point that I cannot tell where the sun is right now AND the PulseTech 5 watt solar panel for the Everlast battery I pulled out of the Sovereign 5-6 months ago shows a constant charge. I checked the charger on the Sovereign and the two 100 watt panels and one 65 watt panel show charging through the Heliotrope 22B charger as charging the Trojan battery.

Where do people get the idea that solar panels don't put out energy when the sun is behind clouds? Sure, the same amount of power is not there as when the sky is clear but energy is there, overcast or not. I know that my AMSolar SunRunner system is an advanced system with 44 cells per panel and the charger is a boost charger but don't discount solar based on old systems.
OK Lewster, carry on with the argument.
The problem with most of the solar charging system out there are:

1: poor quality to sell at a cheap price point

2: cheaply made collector panels to sell at a cheap price point

3: relatively innefective solar charge controllers to sell at a cheap price point

(are you getting the message yet??????????????)

4: substandard wiring (smaller wire guage) to (.......fill in the blanks!!)


YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!

In the AM Solar Sunrunner systems, we use a minimum of 10 gauge wire for connecting the panels, and 8 gauge to connect the array to the controller.

And yes!....the panels do work on cloudy, overcast days. Not up to the voltage output of sunny days, but still useable and still charging your batteries.

Comments???? QUESTIONS??????
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Old 06-20-2008, 05:11 PM   #20
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Wind turbines wanted to see wind speeds in excess of 12 miles per hour.
i guess this would do a great job of charging while towing!
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Old 06-20-2008, 05:20 PM   #21
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I'd like a small nuclear reactor. Bet it would be quiet too.
When we camp the juice flows. AC, TV's, microwave, coffee pot, blow dryer, flat iron, stereo, party lights. Gave up the tent quality camping a long time ago.
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Ther's also the "noise" angle

Even small wind generators are quite noisy, your neighbors might not appreciate it.
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Old 06-21-2008, 09:15 AM   #23
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I'd like a small nuclear reactor. Bet it would be quiet too.
. . . but until then, I'd like to have a reformer and a stack of fuel cells.
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Old 06-21-2008, 09:18 AM   #24
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The Air-X is on it's third incrarnation with much lower noise levels. There are other small wind generators used mainly Wind Generators Kiss High-Output Wind Generator for sailboats that could be adapted to RVing
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:08 PM   #25
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Uhh...I did a search on "wind", and for some reason, I got search results for burrito fixin's...
Could it be an add for wind generator fuel?
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I've been thinking, and, if money were not so much an object, is there a reason you couldn't use both solar and wind power generation? My experience has been that on cloudy days, when there is less light for the solar panels, it tends to be windy.
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Old 06-23-2008, 08:33 AM   #27
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Hi, All:

Thanks for all your responses (even the burrito one!). It's looking like everyone agrees that wind is nice, but as added to solar; and then on top of that, have a small generator for backup. Quite a pricetag, but given that i want to boondock more than not, it seems like it might be the ticket. Again, thanks for the advice.
i'll be doing more research on both wind and solar generation.
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I am enjoying reading this also. As I see our trailer as being an alternative home if a hurricane or other destroys our house in this city -- and we are living "elsewhere" for 9-18 months during rebuilding -- it would seem that a combination of sources is practical (beyond initial cost). Hope to see more.
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