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Old 09-16-2008, 10:46 PM   #1
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Exclamation What size generator?

I have a 1979 31'sorveign with one coleman air conditioning and a working battery charging system. What is the best largest generator for running the AC,TV,microwave,coffeepot, lights, and a fan. And the best smallest generator without the AC running. I tried a 1200 watt generator and it would not work kept tripping the generator breaker without using the AC I was only running a fan,lights, and of course the battery charging system. Would like to know what is the best generator size for the least amount money to fully operate my airstream that has a smart throttle and is quiet running. Would also like to know what size solar panel needed to keep refrigerator running and batteries charged.

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Old 09-16-2008, 11:34 PM   #2
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The 1200 should have been enough for charging the battery and a few other items. I use a 1000 for that with no problems.

If you want to run the AC, microwave and a coffee pot (all at the same time) you are going to need a lot of watts.
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:35 AM   #3
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A lot of folks are going to recommend that you get two Honda 2000s. That's far from a low cost solution. I had a 3000 watt Kipor which is very similar to the Honda 3000. It was quiet and effective, but very heavy (140 lbs). I lost the Kipor in a fire and decided to go with the Yamaha 2400. It was only $200 more than a Honda 2000 and I felt that was worth the extra cost for the chance that it would run my A/C.

The Yamaha 2400 is 70 pounds and runs my trailer and A/C comfortably. However there are a lot of unknowns in your situation. How big is your A/C? How old? The Yamaha 2400 is only advertised to run "most newer 13,500 btu a/c". Even if it does work you still won't be able to run the coffee pot or microwave at the same time the A/C is running.

Since your A/C is probably older your cheapest solution may be a 3000 watt unit but you'll pay for it in weight.

There's one guy on the forums that will surely chime in with a list of 10 threads showing that this has been discussed before and that you should have used the search tool. Just ignore him, and welcome to the forums!
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:55 AM   #4
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Hey Tinloaf-- Search tools aside, how did you like the Kipor? It's certainly less expensive than the similarly rated Hondas and Yamahas-- is the main drawback weight, or are there other negative aspects you found?

Also, how well have you found the Yamaha 2400 to run your AC systems? Do you ever feel like you are overloading it?

Like KCAirstream, I am looking for something that can run the AC on my trailer (and as many other systems as possible, but I'm okay with only running AC and a few lights if that's all it can do). I know it will depend on the AC, in my case I have a new Carrier AirV low-profile 15K BTU.

I know that twin 2000s will do it, but I'd really love to find a less expensive solution.

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Old 09-17-2008, 08:40 AM   #5
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how did you like the Kipor?
I just got the Yamaha earlier this year and haven't had too much time to test it. I powered up the A/C in the driveway for a few hours during the break-in period and it didn't sound like it revved up much more than idle. I was very impressed. I thought it would be screaming, but it was quiet and controlled. I turned on all the lights in the trailer plus the TV and it didn't make a difference.

I got the Kipor a few years ago when the 3000 watt model was $899 shipped to your door. I was going to get another one but now they are almost as much as the equivalent Honda so it's not the bargain it once was. It was as quiet as the new Yamaha and ran a/c and microwave at the same time. It had the smart throttle and everything. I had two seasons of pretty heavy use and it never failed me - even at 15 degrees. The longevity of the Kipor is yet to be proven.

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I'm pretty sure you'll need 3000 watts for the 15,000 BTU a/c.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:29 AM   #6
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Based on a lot of research on most of the top name generators we went with a Yamaha 3000 with a surge on it whenever a large load hits it. Granted you have to suffer for the the weight but if you are going to run what most of these new units have on them you need a larger generator. Our unit was a little over $2,000 but it has electric start and an economy function if all you are doing is charging the battery. I am still looking into the solar panels. My unit is wired for solar but it was not on the unit when it came from the factory.

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Old 09-17-2008, 09:04 AM   #7
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If all I need to do is run a coffee maker and charge batteries and some other small stuff. Don't think i will use a microwave can I get by with a Honda 1000?????
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:08 AM   #8
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If all I need to do is run a coffee maker and charge batteries and some other small stuff. Don't think i will use a microwave can I get by with a Honda 1000?????
Absolutely. If you want to run the microwave I'd consider the Honda 2000. That's what I was originally planning to do, but then I decided that I'd spend the extra $200 and get the Yamaha 2400 in case I needed to run the a/c on a summer road trip. My plans kind of snowballed.
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If all I need to do is run a coffee maker and charge batteries and some other small stuff. Don't think i will use a microwave can I get by with a Honda 1000?????
No that will not work. A Honda 2000 will run a microwave. A 1000 won't run a hair dryer. Even with 2000 you need to load manage. A coffee maker when making coffee uses a lot of power.
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:21 PM   #10
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We use an older Honda 1000 which I bought used some years ago. It will run our microwave (950w), it will run our espresso maker (900w). Most microwaves and coffee makers draw more than our units. The wattage draw is usually stamped, cast or printed on the back or bottom of the unit.
Our boondocking us usually in the cooler months, so running the A/C on a generator is not an issue.
That being said, when our little Honda dies, I will probably replace it with a Honda 2,000.
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:36 PM   #11
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Hello. You need at least 4000 watts for A/C
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:46 PM   #12
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PS: I always use a 5000 watt or more. I can run micro and A/C.
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:28 PM   #13
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ok, this post might give a trail tomore data.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/show...7&postcount=11
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:35 PM   #14
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FWIW, I took delivery of a gently used Honda 3000 w/wheels last year for about $1G total. New low profile 15K Dometic AC this year. Big frig. No microwave. No electric coffee maker. No TV. No hair dryers. No furnace. No solar. Plenty of lights. Stereo runs constantly. Laptop. iPhone. AGMs.

The issues I have are the weight, the size and the fuel. I wish it was lighter, smaller and could run off of propane. But for the price I paid, I am VERY happy with this unit.

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