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Old 06-19-2011, 09:29 AM   #15
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All electric is not good for winter living.
Airstreams are not well insulated and will not heat with a space heater when temps get below freezing.

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Old 06-19-2011, 10:46 AM   #16
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All electric is good if you are parked somewhere with a seasonal rate.The beauty of gas is camping along the way to that seasonal destination.Having both power sources works for me .

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Old 06-19-2011, 12:50 PM   #17
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IMHO keep the gas, multiple power options are great, cause you never know.......
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Old 06-19-2011, 01:21 PM   #18
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All electric? Do you plan to tow with a Chevy Volt?
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:45 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by lewster View Post
4 Lifeline GPL-6CT 300 amp/hour batteries for a total of 600 amp/hours. Look for the Litiionics Lithium-ion batteries to be ready for 'prime time' in about 6 months to a year. One of their units that they rate ate 200 amp/hours will be the equivalent of this size battery bank.............but weigh 75 lbs!.

As I said, they are not ready for RV use yet (AM Solar is working closely with the company in their R & D) as their charging profiles and some of their hardware is being tweaked. I will definitely keep the Forum posted when these new batteries are ready!

Are they like the thundersky Lith?
I was looking at a 200ah x 24v array (8) $2000 128lb

Thundersky Lithium Batteries

They also have a 12v 90ah 35lb model WB-LP12V90AH that looks good at about $500
So for a 180ah x 24v array = $2000 140lb or 180ah x 12v = $1000 70lb
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:15 AM   #20
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I would love to see this show up under my christmass tree

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Old 06-20-2011, 12:06 PM   #21
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I have my 1978 31' excella 500 totally down to the frame and am trying to decide what to do next. I was wanting to try and go all electric with everything and do away with the gas completely. Would this be a crazy idea? i.e. huge solar system. If I do keep the gas what should I keep on gas and what makes more sense to make electric? I am planning on boondocking quite a bit year round and would like the only limiting factor to be fresh water. Some of my main areas of concern are water heater, heater, cook top, and a/c. I am insulating with closed cell foam so it should be pretty sealed up. Since the AS is totally gutted anything can be done and I want to do it right and do it nice.
Hi EZstream.

There are a few non-Airstream all electric rigs being sold out there, mostly B vans, and a few that are mostly electric but have a diesel fired space heater or combination space heater and water heater. Most of these rigs are motorhomes and are set up for rapid charging of the battery banks whenever the engine is operated.

In general the furnace will require the most fuel so that's the hardest to make work on batteries. Hot water is next followed by the stove oven and fridge.

If you will be at a campground most of the time then all-electric might make sense. I have an electric water heater and electric heat and do use them but I have propane too.

If you're trying to set up for boondocking and are willing to spend several thousand extra $$$ on the systems maybe you can make it work although it will still require fairly frequent use of auxiliary power (generator) in winter months.

Sounds like you might be new to camping so you might want to wait until you've been on the road for a few trips before making such decisions
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Old 06-20-2011, 01:23 PM   #22
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Keep both systems and add a gas light(s)
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Old 06-25-2011, 07:31 AM   #23
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I saw one all electric trailer at the Florida state rally. Had a generator mounted where the gas tanks usually are.
Does not appeal to me. Gas is almost perfect for boondocking. Light weight, cheap, can carry all you need. Instant heat. Add a little generator for battery charging and you are all set to go. If you do go back to gas a Catalytic heater is good for boondocking so you can have heat without draining the batteries.
For us, the fresh water tank is fairly large and not limiting. The black water and gray water tanks are limiting. I dump every 5 days. I guess I am not a dedicated boondocker anyway. I bought the thing to tow. I like a change of scenery after 5 days anyway.
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Old 06-25-2011, 07:50 AM   #24
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I saw one all electric trailer at the Florida state rally. Had a generator mounted where the gas tanks usually are.
Being a Floridian, I look at our AS as a possible refuge if or when our electric will be off due to hurricanes, all electric would spoil that concept.
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:40 AM   #25
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As the Boy Scout motto says: "Be Prepared". As a full-timer and long time Airstreamer, may I suggest "dual power". Dual water heater, dual fridge, gas stove, electric cooking appliance of choice, gas Wave heater, electric cube heater. A/C plus two Fantastic Vent Fans. Solar panels can be useful but, a good inverter/converter is a must - along with a good, sealed battery, or two. Modern electric cooking devices are great but, it doesn't hurt to squirrel away an old fashioned coffee pot, a hot dog stick, and a fire pit grille -- just in case. Good luck on the re-build and happy trails.
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:45 AM   #26
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As Rednax said, I would go all Diesel before I would go all electric, but you gotta agree that dual rules...
If it's to be, it's up to me.
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Old 06-26-2011, 11:25 AM   #27
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One additional comment... I agree with all above as to keep the gas. But, also, at a Solar workshop last year at the 4CU restoration rally, Uwe from Area 63 Productions demostrated the loss in Solar output from panels that were 1) not at the perfect angle to the sun (all day long) & 2) brief or extended cloud cover. & He also reminded us that parking in the woods with shade from trees would be a problem. That is why his coach does not have roof mounted panels.
I also added a propane gas lamp to my GT for light when boondocking.
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Old 06-26-2011, 11:57 AM   #28
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All electric is too limiting IMO. Versatility is key. I have a couple of friends who have done some things that limit themselves too much. One went with all 120v and another went without propane of any sort. They have had to pack additional equipment to make up for these deficiencies. I am a firm believer in multiple power/fuel sources that are integrated into the whole structure, along with backup options.

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