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Old 01-20-2007, 04:15 AM   #1
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Cool Solar pre-wire on a 2005 19' Bambi CCD

Does anyone know exactly where the green and yellow solar pre-wires terminate in the ceiling of a 2005 19' Bambi CCD? (build date 4/04) I found one end under the seat for the dinette near the water pump.

I believe the other end terminates just behind the front fantastic fan - or just about 6 inches in front of the AC.

I have called Airstream and have received a number of different answers.

Please let me know if you have seen these wires... It will save me days of hunting...

Thanks
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I believe the other end terminates just behind the front fantastic fan - or just about 6 inches in front of the AC.
There often is a usual distribution -- either roadside or curbside of the midline. No help beyond that though...

Who posted a photo of their 19' solar factory installation recently? Was it campadk?
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Old 01-21-2007, 12:46 PM   #3
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Surely someone must have seen these elusive wires...?
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Nope.. not me. I'm supposed to have 'solar prewire'.. but what the heck is that? It did not come with a solar panel, controller or inverter... so I'm assuming its just a peice of wire that goes from the inside up to the roof incase you have a solar panel to hook up. Doesn't sound like much... am I wrong?

Based on some discussions on here, I figure a better bet is to go with a small generator... or have a portable solar array that is not on the roof. (roof is too small for much of a panel).
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Oh wait.. you mentioned under the dinette... which wires was that?

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Look in front of your forward vent and light on the roof.

Under your R/S dinnete seat you will find Yellow and Green there and your Blue cat 5 wire no end. pull you display monitor panel out and you should find your other end of the cat 5.

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This is where a wire toner would come in handy... HD has them in the electrical section with the network wiring tools.
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Look in front of your forward vent and light on the roof.

Under your R/S dinnete seat you will find Yellow and Green there and your Blue cat 5 wire no end. pull you display monitor panel out and you should find your other end of the cat 5.

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So the solar wire is in on the subwoofer side of the dinette seats, not the water tank? What would you do with it there?

So where is your Cat 5 going from/to? The system monitor???

Here are the cat 5 (Internet) cable connections in our 2007 Bambi:

One inside under the dinette (makes sense to use your notebook computer at the table)



The other end goes to the receptable on road side, to plug into the campsite hookup



I'm planning to simply buy an EVDO capable router and a verizion card to manage Internet.. so cat 5 isn't going to be used anyways. And that equipment might as well be in our tow vehicle running on the truck battery, not the Airstream powersource.
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I was told by those who know at JC that the pre-wire starts inside the air conditioner opening and runs 'either' down the wall that houses the Micro Pulse system and can be accessed by removing the panel...OR... across the ceiling and behind the refer.

I think that I found BOTH . I'll have to do a continuity check to ID the proper pair and determine wherethey go from there. If they terminate in the space under the RS dinette, it will take some doing as there sure is a lot of spaghetti in that box! Good thing I like Italian food !!!
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I would think the solar pre-wire should run from outside on the roof (where the solar panel would be located) and arrive by the water tank since that is where all the 12V wiring is. Then I assume you buy a controller and attach to your battery lines. Is some isolation device or switch needed as well?
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it's where???

good question, I have yet to find them on my 04 Safari, in spite of all the "help" from the owners manual. I did discover that the coax to my rear tv outlet was somehow left behind the sink/cabinet, about 4 feet short of connecting to the panel in the credenza. Oh well, I never use that one anyway. If you find the solar wires, puleeze let us know where to look!
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Under your R/S dinette seat you will find Yellow and Green there and your Blue cat 5 wire no end. pull you display monitor panel out and you should find your other end of the cat 5.

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JPAIRSTREAM - Thanks. But I have a CCD. I have multiple lights up front... Are you saying its forward of the front fantastic fan? If it is thatís great.

Campadk - Mine has a coil of green and yellow and blue wire labeled 'Solar' right next to the water tank. No cat 5 cable. Just a blue #10 wire in the same bundle as the yellow and green wires.

Campadk - I do not believe you need an isolation switch. PROVIDED you hook it straight to the battery. Some controllers do not like to be hooked to the converter. I plan on buying a Morningstar Prostar Charge Controller. They appear very well made.


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This is where a wire toner would come in handy... HD has them in the electrical section with the network wiring tools.
Paul - I thought a wire toner would only work on 110 with power? Do you know a place you can rent these?


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I was told by those who know at JC that the pre-wire starts inside the air conditioner opening and runs 'either' down the wall that houses the Micro Pulse system and can be accessed by removing the panel...OR... across the ceiling and behind the refer.

I think that I found BOTH . I'll have to do a continuity check to ID the proper pair and determine where they go from there. If they terminate in the space under the RS dinette, it will take some doing as there sure is a lot of spaghetti in that box! Good thing I like Italian food !!!
Lew I am so glad you posted! I had to replace the monitor panel a while back. I did it myself. I did not see any yellow and green wires. However, I did not take apart all the wire looms. I limited the opening of the panel to just the necessary wires to replace the panel. Please let me know if you find anything and what color the wires are. Good to hear from you! (Oh and yes the
spaghetti wire gnomes visited me too.) Once I get some time I plan to fix that...

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If you find the solar wires, please let us know where to look!
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hi jd, how ya doing!

what an adventure...

at the risk of being obvious, have you emailed the factory?

i know you called but understand how a call works...
the front desk takes it, one of the gals asks whoever is standing nearby...
and that is your answer on that day.

but email creates a digital trail like a letter so whoever replies has to get the best answer...

my understanding is as lewster stated...

the wires are under the roof skin for/aft the a/c...

knowing where to make the whole and fish them out is the issue...

it does vary by model,
so my locations (behind the ac, under the micropulse and in the refer compartment) don't help ya...

and silvergate has posted a photo of his roof wire location on the 23ft model...

http://www.airforums.com/forum...70-post19.html

i look forward to your discovery!

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Paul - I thought a wire toner would only work on 110 with power? Do you know a place you can rent these?

The one I'm talking about is used in the security/network cabling industry.

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