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Old 03-19-2012, 05:30 PM   #1
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Purchased a Honda EU-3000is today!

I have read every post on Generators on this site! I wanted a generator that would run A/C and then some. I weighed cost, weight, electrical capacity, fuel capacity and noise. I never considered anything made by anyone but Honda and Yamaha.
The runners up were the Honda EU 3000i Handi, the Yamaha 2400 and a pair of Honda EU 2000's. In the end I elected to buy the EU 3000is over the others for a number of reasons. Some deciding factors being; I can actually lift the silly thing into the back of our F-150, the fuel capacity and the noise specs on the unit.
Anyway I bought it from a local dealer, brought it home and connected it to Lulu. I started it, turned on the A/C, the water heater and the TV. No sweat!
The overwhelming first impression is “Wow, this thing is quiet!"
I think I done good.
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Bruce,
We have a Honda 3000 also. Take a look at my pics and see the crazy wheel mod that my husband is so proud of.
Also, I work in a Honda dealership service dept for about 5 years. We worked on Honda generators and motorcycles. As far as reliablity goes, you won't be disappointed with the Honda. They Yamaha are good too. But for myself, we chose the Honda. Remember to use a fuel stabilizer in between trips.
I don't think I said so, but welome to the forums!
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:10 PM   #3
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I have no doubt that Honda quality is excellent. As to fuel stabilizer I am a Vespa dealer and as such I am intimately familiar with the damage done by ethanol fuels when left unattended….. Thanks for the heads up though. It doesn’t hurt to repeat the warnings often!
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I have no doubt that Honda quality is excellent. As to fuel stabilizer I am a Vespa dealer and as such I am intimately familiar with the damage done by ethanol fuels when left unattended….. Thanks for the heads up though. It doesn’t hurt to repeat the warnings often!
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Sometimes the repeat doesn't help either. I can't count how many people came in to have their carbs cleaned out and then in a few months, we saw them again for the same thing. They'd get all mad at us for not fixing it 'right' the first time. Realizing it was their own lack of attention was a hard pill to swallow...another $200, please and thank you.
I'm sure you've experiened this too. Here is Cailfornia, our fuel quality so bad. It barely lasts a month.
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:14 PM   #5
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Here is a web site that shows where you can get gas which does not have alcohol in it.

Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

I now only use non alcohol gas in all my small engines, and in my big rigs if they are stored for several months. My TV is one of those. I also a m lucky that non alcohol fuel is available within 25 miles of my home. Same distance as the supermarket.
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What's the booze gas ruining?
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Rifboy - I think you made a smart buy. I have a Honda 3000i also. It is a bit heavy so I rigged up a chain fall in my barn and I use it to place it in the bed of my truck in the spring (chained in). It stays there all season until winter. When I run the gen I close the tailgate and it is so quiet that most of the time my neighbors don't even know it is running. It runs my air on eco so fuel lasts all night.
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:35 PM   #8
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What's the booze gas ruining?
Ethanol is an alcohol.
Alcohol absorbs water.
First issue is corossion of the jets that plugs the jet to the point that the engine will not run.
Second issue is refered to as phase shift. This is when the fuel/alcohol "mixture" absorbs enough water to force the mixture past the point of saturation. You end up with a gasoline on top of a watery alcohol mix.
Not good!
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:39 PM   #9
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Rifboy - I think you made a smart buy. I have a Honda 3000i also. It is a bit heavy so I rigged up a chain fall in my barn and I use it to place it in the bed of my truck in the spring (chained in). It stays there all season until winter. When I run the gen I close the tailgate and it is so quiet that most of the time my neighbors don't even know it is running. It runs my air on eco so fuel lasts all night.
I'll need to try that! I have the same cover on the bed of the truck too....
Do you keep the cover closed? Just open the tailgate or is it the opposite combo?
Nice tip.
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Congrats. It is a nice genset.

Back straight and lift with your legs. Better yet get help.

We chose the 2000 twins most because of the weight.

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Great choice. I have both a 3000 and a 2000 and I absolutely like the 3000 best - I actually think it is quieter.

Here's what I use to get it into my truck bed - found the lift at Northern Tool.
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Ethanol is an alcohol.
Alcohol absorbs water.
First issue is corossion of the jets that plugs the jet to the point that the engine will not run.
Second issue is refered to as phase shift. This is when the fuel/alcohol "mixture" absorbs enough water to force the mixture past the point of saturation. You end up with a gasoline on top of a watery alcohol mix.
Not good!
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Interesting! I use BP Gold in everything. Is that any good?
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Great Choice! I have a Honda 1000 (inverter type) that I have had for about 10 years and it works great. If I ever decide that we need to run the A/C then we will go with the same one that you got.

Thanks for the chemistry lesson on what ethynol does to the innards.

I am a motorcyclyst, but I have always had a fondness for Vespa scooters. Timeless design, just like Airstreams.

Idroba- Thanks for the ethynol free gas link!

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Yamaha has a new model - 2400W that claims to be able to run a 13,500 BTU air conditioner. Called Jim Parrot at Airstream and he said to buy a 3000w, as the 2400 would not be the best. My thoughts are the weight difference is alot. The 2400 would set just inside my rear topper window in the corner of my raised platform that covers my 2 slide out 8' storage boxes. It is much smaller in size than the 3000 Honda. What are your thoughts? Have not purchased anything yet, but need to soon!
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