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Old 09-17-2003, 10:32 AM   #15
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Roger,
The Honda generators are typically only available through qualified retailers, not so much through discount chains like the ones that you have mentioned.
I would suggest to get the EU2000i, which can do more than just charge the batteries, it can actually be used for a power source for campling with no hookups as well.
They have a EU1000i as well, but for a little more money you get a more usable unit.
Do an internet search for Honda EU2000i, and youwill find some sources.
Mayberries is a good one!
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Old 09-17-2003, 08:27 PM   #16
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My server must have gone down within the last 30 minutes so I lost the post I made on generators. Several forum members have purchased two of the EU2000 generators which weigh around 51 lbs. each. Pretty light. They wired them together for a max. rating of 4000 watts and 3200 watts continuous. Each unit has a 12 volt 12 amp DC output in addition to the120 volt outlet(s). Price was $999 but I have seen them cheaper.

I spotted a 5500 watt surge / 4500 continuous North Star unit in my Northern Tool and Equipment catalog that is powered by a 9 hp Honda OHV engine with Oil Alert. It has a 6.5 gal. tank, runs 13.4 hours on half load and 9.2 hrs. on full load. It does not have a 12 volt terminal but does have 37 amps at 120 volts, 18.75 amps at 240 volts. It has four 120 volt 20 amp outlets with GFCI, one 120 volt 30 amp twistlock outlet, one 120/240 volt 20 amp twistlock and one 120 volt 50 amp outlet. Seems like it has all the bases covered and you can use the battery charger in your unit or an external one plugged into an outlet. On the bad side, it weighs 248 lbs. but for the features I believe I could rig something up to get the unit in and out of the bed of my truck. Price is $1599 which is an easier pill to swallow than $2000.
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To me, just as important as power and portability is the noise level. The Honda EU2000i is very quiet, really only noticeable when standing right next to it. Every other genset I have heard in campgrounds is substantially louder
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Old 09-18-2003, 12:44 PM   #18
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I have a Honda EB2500 for emergency power to my house. It's probably not as quiet as the suitcase models, but it runs all night on a tank of gas, and is a lot quieter than SOB frame models. Weighs about 70lbs, is 16x20x17. If their newer EV models are as well built, you can't go wrong.
I am a little concerned about wiring two gensets together to get higher amps. How does this affect phasing? I think better to run them separately, one to the A/C, other to the other appliance. Unless Honda has a way to synchronize two gensets feeding the same mains?
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Honda does have a way to feed the same mains. they offer a special cable assembly for this. The EU2000i has the terminals for it.
One EU2000 can not safely start and run most A/C, that's part of the problem.
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Thnaks. I kind of got that idea from you previous post about 'special cable'. That's great thing to know.
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I just picked up the Honda eu3000i to run the air conditioner on my 16' CCD. It's an 11,000 btu unit and the documentation said minimum amp required is 25. It's a bit heavy but my wife and I can get into and out of the back of my truck. Haven't tried it yet. We're planning an early spring trip to AZ. We live in the cool fog of the Humboldt coast CA where a heat wave is 65 degrees in the summer and we bake whenever we go inland. It looks like overkill compared to the eu2000 but we needed the juice. The DC output says 12-amps. Any tips on charging the trailer battery? Anything I should watch out for?

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Question 3000i follow up question

Jamie, Did you buy the 3000i from a local dealer or via mail order? Would you mind posting details and price?
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I am the world's worst shopper! I just bought it at a local dealer. Paid $1,943.29 I just had a birthday and that helped to justify it.
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eu20001 & eu30001 on backorder?

Jamie, Thanks for the details. I just checked mayberrys.com and both models are listed on backorder till December. Think I'll check my local dealers.

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We purchased our Honda 2000i from a local dealer in the heat of camping season, first half of August. The internet retailers we found recommended on the forum were all back ordered. We were able to negotiate near the internet price with the local dealer. (He initally wanted full retail for the generator). It was good business on his part, because we ended up buying a new chain saw from him as well.
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Hi All,
As an alternative to the hondas you might want to check out the Yamaha 3000iseb which has a boost feature to start the A/C. I have a friend who recently bought one and is very happy with it. It comes with wheels so you can roll it around or up and down out of the truck. It is very very quiet. I believe he paid about $1750 for it. You might check out yamahagenerators.com for more info.
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I have owned a small Honda Generator for eighteen years. With proper maintenance, they will last.

However, people often get confused between AC output wattage and DC output wattage. They are NOT the same.

A Honda EU1000 or EU2000 only put out 96 DC watts at 8 amps and the EU3000 has a rating of 144 watts DC at 12 amps.

If you have a small generator, it may be to your benefit to use the AC output and a GOOD charger to maintain your trailers batteries. These chargers have been designed to charge batteries. The DC terminals from generators do not have the extra circuitry to protect a battery.

For those of you who are tired of lifting generators and are good bargain hunters, may find that an Auragen is the way to go. They are mainly used on commercial and military vehicles. They have a pure AC output and can be had from 5 to 12 KW with or without DC. The power source mounts on the engine or a pto if so equipped. The controller fits wherever you can find a space usually in the back of a pickup or in the area between the inner box and the outer sheet metal of a fleetside pickup truck.

I have two. One for a ford and one for a Chevy/GMC Duramax Diesel. These Auragens are quite expensive but if you are patient and resourceful, you can pick up new ones for around $300 including the mounting package. As long as you have fuel to run your tow vehicle, you have power.

Go to Auragen.com for technical details. I am not connected with Auragen in any way, although I wish I were.
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Where in southern California were you able to negotiate the honda generator internet price?
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