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Old 01-12-2016, 10:39 AM   #15
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2000 watt generators out out 1600 watts. So 2 Hondas make 3200 watts. The companion does have a 30 amp receptacle but it is a Honda plug and you still need a $30 adaptor to plug the trailer into it.

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Old 01-12-2016, 10:43 AM   #16
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Champions are loud!

And I run two Hondas at 8,000 feet in the summer with no problems...


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Old 01-12-2016, 10:49 AM   #17
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Being in the same position as you are now, I bought two of the 1800 watt Champions plus their attachment that lets you combine them into one 30 amp RV socket. The 1800 watt units, at approx 50 lbs, are heavy enough for me; I doubt I could lift the 3000 watt unit you're considering into the bed of my pickup. Maybe you're just a lot younger & stronger than I am at age 73, Gunga Din. BTW I've had no problems at all with the 1800 watt Champions; they start easily & just keep on running, reasonably quietly. I would have like to have bought two of the 1800 watt Hondas (or Yamahas), but they cost approx. twice what I paid for the Champions, & so far, the Champions have worked out for me.
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:56 AM   #18
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The description says it's powerful enough to start a 15,000 btu AC, wonder about higher altitudes though. My question is with the decibel rating of 58. Generally that rating is specified as a range based on load or whether it's running in eco-mode or not. For the Honda 2000i that range is 53 to 59 decibels measured a 9 feet from the control panel side of the Generator. So is the Champion Db rating of 58 (at 23 feet) at load or running in eco-mode?

At that price, I think I would be tempted to buy it and try it. Costco has a good return policy if it doesn't work out.
For comparison, a single Honda EU2000i will put out 45 dB at 23 ft and 50% throttle. Thats alot quieter, although for just 1/2 the rated power.
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:02 AM   #19
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I purchased two Honda 2000's in 2007. They have served me well over the years. I decided on them because they weigh only about 45 pounds each. I can lift them into the bed of my truck without help. No negative issues thus far. keep the gas fresh and drain the carbs when done.
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:25 AM   #20
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I have an older Yamaha 2800 watt inverter generator (10 years old) and I will sometimes, repeat sometimes, have to open the circuit breaker to the converter (as it can draw as much as 600 watts), then hook up the generator, then start the air conditioner (A/C). After the A/C is running then I close the breaker for the converter. It is just the initial starting surge of the A/C that is sometimes the problem. Oddly, subsequent cycling of the A/C on and off doesn't trip the generator out on overload.

10 years ago is when Yamaha came out with the 2400 watt inverter generator, and it was the same unit as the 2800 except with more sound insulation. My 2800 is quieter than a cheap generator, but louder than I would like it to be.

I purchased this unit 10 years ago when I had a smaller Airstream with a smaller A/C.
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:35 AM   #21
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An alternative to consider

I've been doing a lot of research lately on generators myself looking for one that fits my needs. I like these from Smarter tools, the are 2000watt - 1600 continuous and parallel capable pure sine wave.. They run the Yamaha MZ80 Engine (51 Decibel). Reviews are very favorable, and the street price is $649.00 or better.
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:50 AM   #22
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Another option:
FREE SHIPPING Powerhorse Portable Inverter Generator 2000 Surge Watts, 1600 Rated Watts, CARB Compliant | Inverter Generators| Northern Tool + Equipment
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Old 01-12-2016, 01:42 PM   #23
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I have 2 Yamaha 2000w inverter units. They can run in parallel and have a continuous load in parallel of 3200w and a surge of 4000w. They run my 15000btu a/c just fine. In the winter I can run just one and keep the batteries fully charged and keep the furnace running all night for about.8 gal of gas. My biggest factor was weight. The bigger units weigh upwards of 150 lbs and getting it loaded was going to be a chore. The Yamahas weigh about 50# full of gas ready to go. I can load those into the bed of the truck easily. The Yamahas also have a 500 hour overhaul frequency compared to the others which can be as low as 100 hours.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:08 PM   #24
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Pay attention to the term Generator vs Inverter. The Harbor Freight Predator for example is a generator. With the Honda, Yamaha and the Champion you get an Inverter with pure sine wave (same as the electricity from the power company) which may be important for some electronics including the Airstream battery charger.

The Champion unit looks interesting.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:15 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by kscherzi View Post
A few Airstream owners say that a Yamaha EF2400ISCH can start and run a late model 15,000 BTU AC.

I have a 1998 Bambi with the 11000btu A/C Our Yamaha 2400ISCH does a great job powering it A friend has a SOB with a 13500 A/C and he says the 2400 Yamaha is ok as long as that's all you running As for running a 15000 BTU a pair of 2000 Yamaha/Honda would be the way to go.
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2000 watt generators out out 1600 watts. So 2 Hondas make 3200 watts. The companion does have a 30 amp receptacle but it is a Honda plug and you still need a $30 adaptor to plug the trailer into it.
It's not a Honda plug. It's a standard 30A Twist-lock, nothing exotic or Honda-specific, and everyone from Wal-Mart to Northern Tool sells the adapters from twist-lock to 30A RV. My 3k Yamaha requires that adapter as well.

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Old 01-12-2016, 02:47 PM   #27
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Honda 2000i Rule

I have had 2 Honda 2000i generators for 7 years and they run like the day I bought them. Most of the time I can get by running only 1 unit. If I run the air conditioner on my 19' Bambi I run both units using the parallel cable. The units are easy to lift into my Ford F150 and I can run them with the tail gate up so you can hardly hear them at all when they are running full tilt. They will run all night on eco mode on the internal tank of gas or at full power for about 5 hours.

The only modification I made to the units was to run the units dry when the units are turned off. It usually takes about 2 minutes before the engines cut off. This insures no gas remains in the carborator when not in use. It's an easy mod with many Youtube videos available. You do have to pull the starter cord about 15 times to prime the unit each time unless you add a priming valve.

Stick with Honda and you will never regret it!
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I would recommend the Yamaha EF2000is They have served me well. They are quite especially if you put 10 to 15 ft distance from your area of "relaxation". Get two of them and get the parallel cable. Get this sidewinder parallel cable because it has the 30AMP plug. Each is light enough to move around easily.

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